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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago (5 children)

If they don't kill you, they may steal your baby.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 113 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

And the media and courts will ruin the next 20 years of your life as we harass you over your dead baby.

Meanwhile dipshits on the Internet laugh about your dead baby 30 years later.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Have you ever considered people make the joke because of Seinfeld and no inherent knowledge of the actual situation that took place in Australia?

[–] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I came to the comments expecting Seinfeld references and am only just now learning it was a real thing.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As do most people. Deceptichum is just unable to grasp a concept like time. Or that not everyone who lived in that era even knows it’s a real thing.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And a lot of us who were around in the 90s also used "gay" as a casual pejorative without really understanding it. It wasn't right then and it's not right now and most of us grew up and realized that.

The key is thinking, "dang, that's messed up actually" and changing. Not "it's just a joke, geez people are so sensitive."

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You joked about how half of US states outside of the cities aren’t worth visiting. You joked about how everyone in Florida is crazy. Is that not messed up, generalizing whole groups of people like that? Or are the jokes about people you disagree with ok?

Using Gay as a negative is bad… because it impacts a whole group of people. We aren’t directly making fun of the kid specifically, but joking about the situation. Making a joke about the kid, wrong. Obviously. Joking about a dingo eating a baby? Funny. Because it’s not about a person or who they were, but about a shitty situation.

Get off your high horse. Take a joke.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I said "Florida is looking sketch lately", which anybody paying attention to DeSantis should recognize, and I stand by that most US states outside of cities and parks are largly undifferentiated swaths of farm and suburb with no unique reason to pick one over another. Neither is a joke, nor are they about whole groups of people.

You aren't joking about the situation, you're parroting a joke written after Lindy was pardoned. It's a tired Australian go-to reference like "throw a shrimp on the barbie" but instead of just being inaccurate and a stereotype it's also rooted in a specific and very personal tragedy.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This takes me back to my original question. How many dead people in a tragedy does it take before we can joke about it? How many dead actual human lives count up to the death of one baby?

Also, shouldn’t you then be happy the joke and saying of “a dingo ate ya baby” is being said. It’s a true statement.

Some people (and I’m definitely not one) consider Henry Kissinger's death a tragedy. Does that mean we shouldn’t joke about him resting in piss? Do the jokes about “get your mind blown by this one JFK fact.” Become automatically not funny because it was a personal tragedy? Of course not. They’re still funny. What happened is sad, or terrible, or maybe good in the case of Kissinger. That doesn’t mean we stop joking. If anything we’ve immortalized that baby and brought awareness to the idea that sometimes people don’t lie, and dingos, a wild animal, do wild animal things and eat kids. It makes us pause after and reflect on how we should have listened to the parents and how they suffered due to people not realizing it’s true. All of these things can co-exist.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Nobody knows the baby's name, that's not immortalized. (Azaria, by the way) And most people, as evidenced by this thread, don't know anything about the actual story. So it's wet blankets like me bringing awareness.

[–] dirtydan@iusearchlinux.fyi 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Decades later authorities determined a dingo really ate the baby

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

A murder investigation in the NT is like a blind guy looking for his sunglasses

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

40 years :( sorry

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alright then, let's extrapolate, 40 years?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the year 2033
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say is in the pill you took today

[–] moody@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

I appreciate the reference

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see it as the same as the saying "If it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, goodnight" when referring to what to do when around bears. Yes it is comedic and yes it is referring to being mauled to death by a polar bear. Sure there's an argument to be made about being insensitive to the victims of polar bear maulings but that's not the purpose of the statement. "dingo ate my baby" is pretty clear cut on the meaning. Don't leave your baby alone where it can be eaten by a dingo, some people will find that funny because it kind of is ridiculous and horrific that this actually happened.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Nobody has been thrown in jail and dragged through a media circus over a polar bear mauling. Lindy and Michael Chamberlain had their lives ruined after a traumatic loss. It's not the same.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

And then you’re vilified only to be proven right. What a horrific thing that poor family went through

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know that's a true story, right?

Lady lost a kid.

Tropic Thunder may have taught me that, but I'll never not picture RDJ disguised as a dude playing another dude when I hear it.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kofe@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What do you mean you people!?