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    [–] BluesF 115 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Everyone gets angry, but this is not a constructive way to communicate what someone else needs to do. You can express all of this without belittling and swearing at someone. Being angry is fine, taking it out on other people is rude and unnecessary.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    How to communicate with someone who in conversation about KDE randomly blames pulseaudio and opensuse?

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    He basically has one rule and one rule only... we don't break user space... IMO, if you break that one rule, I believe he has the right to be angry. It's not constructive, but I wouldn't hold it against him.

    [–] BluesF 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If he was my boss and he treated me like this I would absolutely hold it against him! Honestly I don't care how much an employee fucks up, there is no excuse for abusing them.

    [–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Even more so because Torvalds is not his boss and the guy is a volunteer that is not being paid for his contribution.
    I'm glad Torvalds was the bigger man and got help for his temper.

    [–] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

    Red Hat email, not a volunteer.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Where is abuse part? More like victimblaming from Mauro.

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Yeah, I completely agree, the guy's a duche, blaiming others for his mistake (assumption, that leads to a shitty PR, which is a mistake).

    As I said, if I did that, I would gladly take the heat from Linus. Own up to your mistake. Yes, you do deserve to be called names. You're a maintainer for the most wide spread kernel in the world. "But I don't get paid...". You can quit at any time pal, no one is forcing you to do it.

    [–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Own up to your mistake.

    To be fair he did it after Linus' speech.

    I posted 3 screenshots in comments here.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/5872379

    [–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

    OK, yeah, that's fair 🤝.