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[–] MuffinMangler@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Israel is trying to sell the story that they are victims to Palestinian aggression. The prisoner trade undermines that story because this shows that Israel has a lot of prisoners who are not warfighters. This begs the questions: why is Israel arresting so many civilians, and how are they able to pull that off? The answer is that Israel is the vastly dominant force in this conflict.

Palestinians aren't evacuating because they have no where to go. Egypt has closed its borders to them, and Israel surrounds them otherwise. Israel has also made evacuations very difficult. There have been reports of Israel giving mere hours notice to evacuate and then attacking early anyway.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Palestinians not evacuating because if they do they will never be allowed back. People who evacuated in prior years, went to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar and many other countries, to avoid the war, are not allowed to go back. Isreal claimed their homes as "they left it empty" among other "legal" laws. Now they don't get the citizenship, they can't go back, and if they do they will find a settlers from New York living there.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Two of those who were formerly detainees, shot and killed someone in Jerusalem yesterday....seems like it might have been a good idea to have them locked up. Brothers as it's reported.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... Right, they're not war fighters.

They're presumably in combat zones though. You can't just leave women and children there right? They would evacuate them. They then find out they're Palestinian so they hold them for prisoner exchanges. Am I just missing something about needing to protect them or are you wanting Israel to just leave them be in an active combat zone where they could be attacked or struck with gunfire?

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where exactly are Palestinians supposed to go to not be in a war zone?

I'll wait for you to realize how boneheaded your argument is if you think it through.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why are you agreeing with me but pretending like it's a gotcha?

They're going to be safer in custody rather than in the middle of a firefight between Hamas and Israel lmfao.

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, just wow.

Here is a protip for your life, Don't worry it's never too late (even after that last comment) to make a change:

It’s so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don’t say it.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you genuinely believe allowing unknown women and children to run around in a fire fight between you and the enemy is okay? You're saying you'd just leave them there to get shot?

You understand how Hamas works right? You'd prefer Israel put a bullet in them instead?

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Not even gonna bother to downvote your comment. It's too much like punching a puppy.