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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 295 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox release notes: we improved the privacy of our browser

Chrome release notes: fuck you and fuck your fucking adblock

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Clarity is needed here. The California language that sparked all this is qualified with "about FakeSpot's products and services". Meaning it could simply be third-party services that they send their own emails through.

After reading their privacy policy, nothing jumps out at me that contradicts this.

To be clear, I'm not a fan of the extension's collection practices, but the down votes could be because this may be unwarranted fear.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unwarranted fear or healthy skepticism? This is the perfect time to “just ask questions.” Firefox is selling itself as a privacy respecting platform and therefore should be held to a higher standard than the garbage that is chrome. If it can pass the test it will be proven again and earn more trust which should result in more users, if it fails then it deserves to be criticised and lose users. Point is if you are selling yourself as privacy respecting you are selling yourself by default as ethical.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree. I wasn't trying to say the collection practice isn't bad, just that the other linked threads may be taking things a bit farther than what the policy actually says.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok. It’s things like this where the detail matters so thank you

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I love the wholesome and fact-focused discussions here on Lemmy. Good show, Mr. SuckMyWang. 🤝

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they are now owned by Mozilla. As stated above, I, like others, don't like the practice, and I hope Mozilla adjusts acordingly.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] steakmeout@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You understand why they changed those terms, right? Because Mozilla isn't reselling the data and the data can't go elsewhere.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but this doesn't mean much. If they didn't transfer ownership, FakeSpot could do whatever they wanted with that data. By forcing the transfer, Mozilla can choose to keep it private.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Use LibreWolf, it's Firefox without all the garbage like telemetry, Pocket or Sponsored Sites. It makes substantial privacy and security improvements and comes with uBlock Origin pre-installed.