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  • Nothing Chats, a rival to apps like Beeper and AirMessage, advertised itself as a secure platform for sending messages to iMessage users.
  • However, less than 24 hours after its launch, investigations into the app revealed that Nothing Chats logged every message in plain text and stored unencrypted data, including text messages, images, videos, and more, making it a significant privacy and security risk.
  • The company removed the app from the Play Store following these complaints, citing "several bugs" that need fixing.
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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This is one of the many reasons I don't like Nothing. They are willing to put users at risk just so they can sell a few more phones.

Let me tell you Nothings strategy:

  1. Make an extract clone of the iPhone and put some gimmick lights on it to get attention.

  2. Make some airpod clones but make them see through to again attract attention

  3. Try to get iMessage working on Nothing 2 (screw you if you're on Nothing 1, Apple style) to reinforce the impression you're using an iPhone.

  4. If successful, price the Nothing 3 even higher to make it seem premium even though it's nothing special at all.

  5. Bring features to the Nothing 3, that the Nothing 2 and Nothing 1 will never get, even though there is no reason not to give it to them too.

  6. Repeat for Nothing 5 and every other Nothing ever. And eventually reach iPhone pricing.

In short, they are using their users just to get popular, become like Apple and get rich. Only to screw you over and make future phones super expensive.

Much like One Plus did. First you position yourself as flagship killer, and once you get a loyal following and deals with mobile carriers then you push the price sky high and give your supporters the middle finger.

Anyone who buys Nothing is a fool.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. Do some YouTube content as the CEO that makes you look like the nice underdog.
[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Pete Lau the CEO of Nothing? He did the same thing with OnePlus. At least I don't think they didn't do invites for Nothing.

[–] flansyrup@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Carl Pei is the CEO of Nothing

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Sorry, I mixed them up, Pete Lau was also one of the big hats at OnePlus. I'm not sure what his title was, then. Oh, I checked up on it; Lau and Pei co-founded OnePlus, Pei was the CEO of OnePlus, but left OnePlus to found Nothing, which he is now the CEO of, leaving Pete Lau as the CEO of OnePlus.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nothing is a clone of OnePlus... repeating the same strategy of OnePlus.. destined to the same fate as OnePlus.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Being a mildly successful phone manufacturer?

[–] crit@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 11 months ago

Going from a sensibly priced, consumer-first, "flagship killer" phone to just another flagship phone with flagship prices

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Despite that, I have a Nothing Phone 1 with LineageOS and I think it's great. The iPhone like design is actually one of the reasons I bought it. Price is also very good for the hardware. What else they're doing is nothing I care about.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well the shape of actually the best thing about it. Apple really hit on a winner with that design and the corner radius they use. It's very pleasing to the eye. Whereas Android phones tend to have sharper corners, for whatever reason.

[–] qfjp@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Whereas Android phones tend to have sharper corners, for whatever reason.

Because Apple has design patents on those corners. Samsung lost a lawsuit about it and almost had to pay out a billion dollars.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Wow that is crazy! How can anyone patent a corner? What next? Patent the square?

That judgement should be thrown out along with the judge who made it!

I'd like to see if Apple sue Nothing because I think they literally traced an iPhone on paper and then added gimmick lights. Even the lights look like an apple logo

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

Did patents actually did 1 good thing?

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Good old fashioned enshitification.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I came to the OnePlus bandwagon late and now I know why my experience was so substandard even though so many people had talked them up. I was looking at the Nothing Phone and beginning to consider it because I bought a Pixel I regret and now I think I'll just stick with the phone that's paid for because they all suck. I miss my BlackJack II, Sidekick, and even my G1.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yes, very sad when happened to One Plus but it was the plan all along. It just shows you that they know what consumers want, especially the really-into-android guys like us, yet when they get what they want in sales and brand, then they drop all that and give us the same slop as everyone else

[–] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

As a three time OnePlus customer I don't blame them. They were a decent deal each time I opted for them, but I feel no loyalty to them or any other brand I've had in-between OnePlus phones.

Like with any corporation, nobody at the company cares about your loyalty as an individual.