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The state of the discourse. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] June@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yea there’s no consensus that the ‘evidence’ produced is reliable. At first IDF showed the hatch to a water cistern and said it was the hatch to the network of tunnels. This new photo could just be a hole in the ground. The tour through the MRI room and truck loaded with weapons could be easily planted. Independent investigations like Forensic Architecture have found discrepancies and raised questions over the legitimacy of IDFs claims. Al Jazeera has reported that IDF had misreported facts to build a narrative.

US intelligence agrees that Hamas was operating out of the hospital, but there not much else backing up these claims right now.

**edited to remove a bad source

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Cobb-Smith has joined with the most politicized anti-Israel NGOs in pushing false or unsubstantiated accusations of Israeli violations of the laws of war [...] In particular, he circulated false claims (“there was no tactical reason; there was no reasonable use of that weapon system”) as well as claims (later discredited) that the IDF used white phosphorous “in an illegal manner.” Similarly, he has been involved with the campaigns of the anti-Israel NGO known as Forensic Architecture.

Oh okey, I understand better what you mean by "not much to back those claims"

[–] June@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did some quick searches on him and saw he was with amnesty international. This didn’t come up for me. I’ll remove him as a reference. Appreciate the insight to him.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They pulled that from a site called NGO-Monitor. It's a right wing Israeli outlet that exists specifically to dismiss claims from international NGOs. It's about as credible as the government itself denying it committed crimes.

[–] June@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, either way, discrediting him doesn’t discredit my argument.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Except there's very credible evidence Israel uses WP illegally. There's literally photos of it available online. Is that the IDF calling him biased or what?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ngo-monitor-bias/

Overall, we rate the NGO Monitor Right biased based on support for the right-wing Israeli government. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting based on the consistent promotion of pro-Israeli propaganda