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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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[–] sab@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I recommend reading Orwell's Homage to Catalonia!

It's a great read and gives a lot of insights into the dynamics I'm describing. The infighting between leftist fractions gets pretty technical, but Orwell does a great job with it.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Orwell is a piece of shit traitor who worked for the UK government to fight communists. AND he was a racist piece of shit. I will never read any books by him, thanks.

I refuse to read explicit anti-communists who worked for fascists states outing communists and disrupting their parties.

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago
[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@novibe @sab

Orwell fought in Spain against Franco. You have some odd definitions of "Anti_Communist."

He hated Stalin? So did everyone who could read and write.

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Orwell is pretty much universally hated by authoritarians on both sides of the political spectrum.

He's a personal hero of mine for many reasons, but that's certainly one of them.

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

Imagine hating Stalin with his massacres of real Communists, and being called an Anti-Communist? 😂

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, Orwell writes in Homage to Catalonia that even though he fought alongside Communists, he was there to fight against fascism, not for communism. I think it makes sense that the communists are not all that eager to praise him; that they are too ignorant to read him is their loss.

No matter how you put it, Stalin was certainly a more effective anti-Communist!

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

Actually he completely supported those he fought with. The "Poum" were Trotskyists, and could call themselves Communists.

Orwell had no problem with them, and there's Nothing in "Homage to Catalonia which attacks their ideals.

[–] sab@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, I always read him as at least sympathetic to the original communist struggle, no matter how much he despised Stalinism and authoritarianism.

It does, however, make sense that people who in all likelihood consider themselves Stalinists wouldn't be the biggest fans of Orwell. What doesn't make sense is that these morons still exist at all, but that's a different issue entirely.

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 2 points 10 months ago

@sab @db0 @boredtortoise @novibe

I have an astonishing book at home released by the Soviet Union while Stalin was head of the Communist Party.

It's a verbatim summary of some of the purge trials, and the lawyers for the defendants might as well have been the prosecutors.

In fact it reads like fiction, except that it's a real book. Beyond belief that Anyone could support this mass murderer.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but then don’t read anything about what he did right after that!

[–] Ulzana@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@novibe@lemmy.ml

I blocked this fanatic, who pretends to know things...