this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
498 points (97.5% liked)

News

23367 readers
3230 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you know how many dollars you'd have if you took every dollar away from every billionaire and divided it evenly? Enough for a nice dinner, maybe a very cheap getaway, not enough to stop working or get all your needs met by someone else who is in the same position as you.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, who doesn't understand economic theory now. Of course that wouldn't work, you'd have to be a moron to even suggest it.

[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're the one who replied to my deleted comment with " all those billionaires exist" (I can't actually pull it up in this app now to quote).

That's some maoist theory you're leaning on.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here you go:

Can you quantify this surplus?

Billionaires exist. Are billions of dollars worth of the very resources we need to survive quantifiable enough?

Who do you think is hoarding both your resources and the benefit of your labour? Who do you imagine is diminishing your capacity for survival?

[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok so America has 300,000,000 people. That's $3 per person for every billion dollars. Come on genius, bring that math, explain how all those billions divide into everyone having everything they need and everyone else will absolutely deliver those needs.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how economics works, you cant just pay everyone a dividend. besides, only about 15% of those 300k need a share of that assistance to get up to base levels of not being homeless and starving. If you're going to bitch about knowing economic theory as least have the intellectual fortitude to not make disingenuous bad-faith arguments befitting a troglodyte.

[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago

You're right that you cannot pay a dividend but you missed the check on your knowledge of how wealth and money work: that money doesn't exist. Only a miniscule fraction of that wealth exists as a budget you can just spend as you know it. All that those billionaires have is the ability to tell people what to do and all they can spend is reallocating productivity towards other goals. All the money that actually gets spent goes into other people's pockets and gets spent in turn. The inefficiently in this system is far lower than the inefficiency in a planned economy.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you deleting your comments? Don't they have any merit?

[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

App issue, reposted