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8GB RAM in M3 MacBook Pro Proves the Bottleneck in Real-World Tests::Apple's new MacBook Pro models are powered by cutting-edge M3 Apple silicon, but the base configuration 14-inch model starting at $1,599...

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My four year old phone has more RAM than an expensive macbook? LMFAO 🀭🀭🀭

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Um actthually mac is so oPtimized so 1gb mac = 12.3gb windows πŸ€“

STFU it physically has less ram than a potato while costing the price of a nasa rocket

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also Appleβ„’ RAM costs like 4 to 8 times as much. Being $200 for 8GB. So assuming fantasy land Appleβ„’ iMagicβ„’ means 8GB = 16GB it's still a minimum of twice the cost per dollar

[–] echodot 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple ram actually is just more dense. They can fit more binary in each gigabyte.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok, so a tech neophyte here so please dont crucify me. Would that not be adding more transistors to the ram? And, would that not affect clock speed?

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Echo Dot's joking, more binary per gigabyte doesn't actually make sense

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You done got whooshed πŸ˜‚

[–] sergih@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

an explanation of the joke :D, he is saying more binary in a gigabyte, I get what u mean with the transistors but he aint talking about that, he talks about being able to fit more data (binary, the raw data, ones and zeroes) in the same space (one gigabyte, like 1024^9 or around 1billions spaces for the ones and zerors) bc ofc, it's apple so they somehow can save morr info in the same amount of space, that's whatvhe meant :)

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification! I appreciate it. I guess I was equating the binary, ones and zeroes, to the transistor gates either been on or off. Again, thank you!

[–] sergih@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

and if u spend another 200 it goes from 16 to 32, so apparrntly somehow 8gb can cost 200 or 100 bc apple

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Who mentioned Windows??

Did you watch the video? The 8GB model is like 1/4 the speed of the 16GB model.

It's a bottleneck, clear as day. I just thought it was funny that Apple is so stingy that they'd even consider putting an offensive 8GB of ram on this laptop.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Darken was poking fun at the Mac fan boy trope.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

LOL. That went over my head. πŸ˜‚

[–] echodot 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Normally I hate emojis, but I have to admit that they are a powerful and very concise language.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple did https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/08/8gb-ram-m3-macbook-pro-like-16-gb-pc/

It's not directly mentioned in this conversation, but the excuse as to why they put such a pathetic amount of RAM in the laptop is that "Macs use it more efficiently"

edit: The quote is "Actually, 8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems. We just happen to be able to use it much more efficiently."

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple being apple... marketing at it's worst.

Sure, it's "more efficient" than other operating systems if you want to look at how much space is being utilized, but other operating systems don't seem to have the same catastrophic performance bottlenecks as this apple laptop apparently does.

The fact that going from 8gb to 16gb improves system performance by 4-5x is something you'd never see happen in a "less efficient" operating system, so what's Apple's excuse for using it?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

so what's Apple's excuse for using it?

Money