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Is Systemd that bad afterall? (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nuuskis@sopuli.xyz to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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SystemD is blamed for long boot times and being heavy and bloated on resources. I tried OpenRC and Runit on real hardware (Ryzen 5000-series laptop) for week each and saw only 1 second faster boot time.

I'm old enough to remember plymouth.service (graphical image) being the most slowest service on boot in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. But I don't see that as an issue anymore. I don't have a graphical systemD boot on my Arch but I installed Fedora Sericea and it actually boots faster than my Arch despite the plymouth (or whatever they call it nowadays).

My 2 questions:

Is the current SystemD rant derived from years ago (while they've improved a lot)?
Should Linux community rant about bigger problems such as Wayland related things not ready for current needs of normies?

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[–] quaff@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there somewhere I can read about the Debian wars? I am curious about that 🤓

[–] bill@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I also think that sounds intriguing.

[–] Jimbob0i0@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Prepare for a rabbit hole... but this ought to get you started...

https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708

[–] digdilem 1 points 1 year ago

There was lots written about it at the time, it split the community hugely - even resulting in a bunch of previously dedicated Debian people getting so upset they went off and created their own distro - Devuan, which is Debian without systemd.

Here's one article - but do remember this was a long time in the past and many of us don't want to go back there... https://www.pcworld.com/article/436680/meet-devuan-the-debian-fork-born-from-a-bitter-systemd-revolt.html