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Discussion: Whats stopping you from getting an EV? (self.evs)

submitted 10 months ago by snacks to c/evs

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I cant argue with someones' nan's facebook feed telling them outright lies, but there is a hell of alot of misinformation being peddled - and not just from anti-EV people. Some very pro-EV people also talk total shit. If you havnt considered it, why not?

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I straight up don't want a new car. Between the cost, the lack of buttons, god awful design, driver assists, privacy concerns, and everything else, I don't want one. Newest I'd get would be like a 2010 model.

EVs are newer than that, and in my experience feel like Im driving a macbook rather than a car. Sure all new cars feel like that, but evs especially.

Also battery degradation.The price to swap the battery usually outweighs the cars worth. With skateboard designs, you have to take out the entire interior. The engineers fucked up.

I also like to do road trips. Im not stopping for an hour every 300 miles, fuck that. Even my long-weekend trips are often 400 miles or more.

[–] kornel@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

eGMP cars (Hyundai/Kia) need 20 minutes of charging per 2-3 hours of driving. It really works — I've driven across Europe twice now, and often my coffee breaks take more time than the car needs to recharge.

The battery tech has advanced significantly in the last 10 years. Leaf used to be 24kWh, now it's 40kWh for the same price. If the trend continues (and likely will thanks to economies of scale ramping up), by the time you need to replace the battery in today's EVs, the replacements will be cheaper and better.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

by the time you need to replace the battery in today’s EVs, the replacements will be cheaper and better

Unless they adopt the cell phone model and just make you trade the car in.

[–] kornel@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone at the end of those trades has to do the replacement, which will dictate second-hand car value.

BTW, batteries wear gradually, and a battery with 70% of capacity may be annoying for a car, but is still valuable for stationary energy storage (for solar). To me that’s another optimistic factor that can reduce actual replacement cost.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

They will not pass these savings onto you.

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