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[–] Avnar@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you should get your Facts right. The KPD only didnt participate in the 1919 election. In the last Reichstags eleciton in 1933 they got 12,3%. They where removed and procecuted after the Nazis blamed a Communist for the Reichstags fire. idk much about Italy but they also got a few seats before Mussolini. To your question about what happened to German Communists, they where either put into Prisons/KZs and killed there, flead to the Soviets or went to Spain to fight Facism there. idk about Italy but probalby the same.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eyuppp the fascists killed them or ran them out of the country. The Prolitariat was never able to achieve the necessary class conciousness needed for a successful revolution and human history entered into one of its darkest and bloodiest chapters. Mask of fascism is bad for the Prolitariat and voting is the bare minimum of civic duty to prevent it from taking hold in a nation.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would voting harder have prevented the rise of fascism?

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said it would have, was merely asking what happened to Communist in those countries when fascism came to power there. Your disingenuousness is showing.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said this

Mask of fascism is bad for the Prolitariat and voting is the bare minimum of civic duty to prevent it from taking hold in a nation.

But voting didn't prevent fascism in all the countries youre describing. In fact, theyre examples of how voting within a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie can't prevent fascism.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please note my use of the term bare minimum, if you arent going to vote you sure as shit arent going to organize. Voting is the bare minimum and an easy first step towards being more politically involved, why are you trying to discourage leftists from voting so hard? Do you want fascism to win the election or something?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voting in bourgeois democracy is a way of channeling political activity into an unproductive avenue. It doesn't follow that voting is required for political involvement. And also your original claim was that it was the bare minimum, it isnt. It is below the bare minimum. You could say "it is a step toward the bare minimum" and I'd disagree but that would be more accurate to what I believe you're trying to convey.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what are you doing to build power and raise class conciousness then? How are you rising to the bare of bare minimum?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Literally making radical unions as part of a socialist organization and doing serious mutual aid work. Providing logistical support to protestors where protesting=/=marching

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More power to you! I'll keep making memes advocating for class conciousness and political engagement.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're doing a bad job here. You just missed.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago