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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Anyone up to argue about something stupid?

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I think Pokemon is an overrated game that prey on people nostalgia to re-re-release over and over the same game twice at the same time with the only difference being a slight sprite and name swap . Kinda like FIFA, NFL, PES. Heck, even they don't do the release twice with slight variations bullshit. Imagine FIFA : Barcelona and FiFA: Real Madrid editions being sold separately and the only difference is that the team written on the other version isn't available.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You would have gotten a more heated debate about this 10 years ago.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember thinking the same even as kid. Why would anyone defend it ten years ago but not now ? Genuine question.

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pokemon is how a lot of people got into games to begin with. It was a new and innovative experience from their perspective. Pokemon Red/Blue was a competent game with some fresh ideas, but through luck/marketing it became the launch point for a massive population of people into the gaming industry.

So now you've got a few factors playing into Pokemon hype:
Nostalgia (you never forget your first)
Production value (this made money, pump more money in)
Incidentally a formula that favors expansion (just add more Pokemon)

These factors are enough on their own to carry a franchise for a while, especially for an otherwise ignorant audience that doesn't play anything else (just like the people who just play FIFA games and nothing else). But at some point, it becomes too obvious even to the most zealous supporters that the formula is, well, a formula, and it's not changing or improving, and even they finally begin to criticize the product. It's easy to have a favorite pokemon out of 150, maybe even 450, but now there are over 1000 and it becomes exhausting even for die-hard fans. Even the number of types has exploded to 18 without actually having any interesting interactions to justify them, it's just more for the sake of more.

Plus, the most recent releases have been impressively lazy, again so much so that even megafans can't nostalgia their way out of it.

All this together makes for a history of a franchise that was one vehemently defended but is now seen as an embarrassing phase one went through as a child.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I appreciate the long and detailed explanation. I already knew most of this but the last sentence tie it all together. People snapping of the pink tainted nostalgia because the abysmal quality of the product they're fed is surely a feat in laziness and and nonecaring about the consumers. Wish it manifested in the sales tho, consumers need to learn that they can vote for improvement with their cash.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There can’t be an argument because I 100% agree with you.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But I failed my task of starting an argument. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

/Jk

[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think your Pokémon hot take is much less controversial than you envisioned lol

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Isn't it the most profitable franchise in the world ? There's a craze around every new release and peoples praising it despite the glaring issues. I did expect a bit more controversy 😅.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

In the game's defense, vaporeon is the game's most compatible pokemon for human-pokemon breeding

[–] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

it's no coincidence that the best pokemon games (emerald, platinum, and legends arceus) are the ones that don't come with a paired-off other half

[–] TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You fight like a dairy farmer!

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

I've met a dairy farmer, that mfer could KO a brick wall.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Last time I got into a fight with a dairy farmer I ended up in a coma for 37 days and when I woke up whenever I tried to move my fingers my toes wiggled instead.

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[–] explodicle@local106.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not, that would be a complete waste of time.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Burger King microwaves their burgers to melt the cheese and their chicken tastes like grade F pigeon meat

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I worked at Burger King 8 years ago, we only microwaved one burger. That's the veggie burger, that thing was the worst. All the rest though, you generally don't have to microwave because it's kept pretty warm in the heating thing.

Also, pigeons are basically the chicken of the sky. And it keeps the local pigeon population down so really a win win 🤷

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Some people really can eat anything

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like the ramblings of a rich kid who doesn’t appreciate the taste of a pigeon. Tell me, how is it to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth?

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Sorry, I don't own a pair of socks with holes in them to use as gloves to eat the damn bird properly. Tell me, how is it to be born with a plastic spoon in your mouth?

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

At least they haven't been hit by shrinkflation nearly as bad as the hockey puck big mac

[–] Broodjefissa@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, depends on your definition of stupid. What's something stupid according to you?!

[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Broodjefissa@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But my IQ is probably less than my mom's. So haa, who's the stupid one now!

[–] ougi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Broodjefissa@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Congrats, you discovered you can make screenshots. Bravo 😂

[–] Flax_vert 2 points 10 months ago

That's transphobic. Their birthing parent came out as trans last year. Oh wait I'm on the UK instance, maybe I should be the transphobic one.