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[–] porkins@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because the workers didn’t find the money to buy a whole factory..

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And what system do you think is keeping the workers too poor to do that?

What system makes it so that work must involve the buying of private property in the first place?

Also, here's a perspective you might not hear often: why should the owner bear that burden and risk alone? That seems like too much pressure for one person. Poor capitalist. Doesn't he realise he needs help?

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even if we ignore the artificially increased transaction costs and hold out problems associated with private ownership that make acquiring means of production more expensive, this point only justifies some sort of compensation from the workers as part of the negative fruits of their labor in production. It does not justify the capitalist appropriating 100% of the positive (legal right to produced outputs) and negative (legal liability for the used-up inputs) fruits of the workers' joint labor

[–] porkins@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The workers get money for their labor..

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Property's moral basis is getting the positive and negative fruits of your labor. Capitalism denies the workers this as the employer solely appropriates the positive and negative fruits of their labor. The core of property's moral basis is the principle that legal and de facto responsibility should match. Receiving wages is not sufficient because the workers remain de facto responsible for the whole (positive and negative) product of the enterprise and are entitled to it on that basis