If you live in barracks on-base and own a personal gun, if often has to be stored in the base's firearm storage. The only people who can walk around armed are MPs or people on their way to/from authorized training. Even if you have a concealed carry permit for the state the base is in, you can't conceal carry in the base. If you're on your way to the base's firing range and stop to get gas at the base's gas station, you can't leave your gun in your car while you go into the convenience store at the gas station unless your car is locked in your trunk. Often even a paintball gun has to be stored in the base armory.

Keep in mind these aren't rules for random civilians. These are the rules for people who have already had to pass extensive firearms training courses.

It's pretty insane that random untrained civilians have far fewer restrictions on guns than members of the military on a military base.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only people who can walk around armed are MPs or people on their way to/from authorized training.

Uh huh... I've carried a Mk-14 clear across base before. Nobody stopped or said shit...

If you live in barracks on-base and own a personal gun, if often has to be stored in the base’s firearm storage.

No... your units weapon storage... and that only because you can't bring a gun safe into the barracks. Keep in mind that Barrack != on post housing... You can have a gun safe and many guns in your on-post non-barracks housing.

Often even a paintball gun has to be stored in the base armory.

No in my experience on 4 different posts.

Even if you have a concealed carry permit for the state the base is in

Cause Federal land doesn't need to recognize local laws. It's up to the post commander what they want to do.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand why it seems strange that the Military has stricter regulations on weapons than civilians but honestly thats a good thing to me. Not saying the level of rules on civilians is fine the way it is, however soldiers are quite literally tools of and representative of the US government, what they do, the US government does, or at the very least is accountable for. Often times what they are doing they are doing to citizens (or soldiers) of other countries as well. A random US citizen doesn't represent the government, but an active soldier is very much representetive of theirs. From the governments POV its like self preservation.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside from all that, it's just sane to lock down weapons.

The military knows how dangerous they are, so they don't let people on military bases just wander around with them. They're carefully controlled. It's just insanity that outside the walls the rules are less strict.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lack of laws around weapon storage are wild. As a part of gun culture I can tell you in the US the gun culture around you is going to determine how safe the area is from guns, and in no small part due to storage habbits that somehow come down to the culture rather than the law. When I see divisions between red and blue state gun crime, it makes intament sense to me having seen how gun culture is in each place. Even the conservatives in liberal areas are generally more careful with weapons than the conservatives in area where they are the majority. Advertising is another problem that imo is a massive contribution to the negative aspects of US gun culture. Not many outside of the culture would see this but if you go to a web site that sells gun accessories and buy something, just wait for the bonkers catalogue they send you in the mail later. For me it looked like a mall ninjas paradise, with just enough inflammatory marketing to not be punished for it, and if we can't reign that in as well I fear all we will be doing is chnging what type of gun the next shooting will be done with.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Extensive firearms training is a bit of a stretch. Yes combat jobs get plenty of range time, but many only get a basic refreshers as needed (before deployment)

But yes military bases are pretty strict compared to outside the fence