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He means basically you are shitting on the people actually trying to change things for the better. Your basic claim is that for some unknown reasons nothing can ever change. This is not the only way things can be, this is not the way things have always been. Change is possible.
If yall think bernie sanders is going to make real change, y'all weren't paying attention to the 2020 presidential race. Im oversimplifyng but Bernie had overwhelming support for Democratic Presidential nomination and the DNC went with Biden. This and a career long history of being overlooked. I would vote for bernie and his policies if ever made it anywhere but into memes.
No. My claim that the US governemnt is not designed to bring about useful and rapid change. Prove me wrong.
The Democratic Party is a lot more moderate than you think. I voted for Bernie, he lost.
Bernie is a shining example of progressive ideals that has shifted the landscape. But he never going to get the support of the majority of Democrats.
Lol my student loans got shifted alright.
Statements like these reaffirm my political stances. This system is working as intended and its miserable af. Lol
This is why i am an anarchist.
You know Biden is pushing for debt relief right? That's Bernie shifting the landscape. Shift it enough, and you'll get someone like Bernie.
Unless you want to go back to '90s Republican-lite Democrats.
Yeah let me know when that happens. When he was running he was gonna cancel it! Thats the bernie shift that I want.
Are shitty democrats now and shitty democrats 30 years ago the extent of your political imagination?
So you don't want debt relief? You don't want the Democrats to continue getting more progressive?
If you can't get your way now, then might as well let everything become a conservative hellhole? That's your idea of anarchy? That's the extent of your political imagination?
I'm going to continue supporting what's best for the country, even if I don't get everything I want. Because I'm an adult. And I care for my fellow people.
You go be chaotic though.
How about 15 years ago when i started voting blue? Lmao. Things are getting worse, dems couldn't even protect abortion.
Once again you are limiting your view to the two parties. If I dont like the shitty democrats then i get conservative hell hole? Thats is? Those are my two chioces?
You should read about aome alternative government structures . there is more out there than these two crappy excuses for political parties. It would give you tools to critizes them and improve them if thats what you wanted to do. Instead of simply continuing to vote for them.
And there it is. The classic liberal definition of anarchy: chaos. Anarchy simply means: An- meaning without, archy or Arch meaning a ruler, lord, or master. So government without rulers or lords or masters.
Thats it. Can can mean many things but they are all non hierarchal or even Horizontal. Bottom up.
If you want to have a conversation about what anarchy really could mean, let me know. But if you stance is simply to shill the latest progessive, you can count me out.
High Horse elitest bullshit.
You: " im going to keep voting for the same, weak half-convervative talking heads that will roll back on their promises as soon as they get into office!
Because I CARE ABOUT PEOPLE!"
If you think the republicans OR democrats are whats best for this country.... We can end this conversation.
Yes. Those are your two options, like it or not. Vote Dem or make things worse by letting the Republicans win. All of your complaints are because of Republicans winning. FPTP or whatever else you're suggesting is great, but it's fantasy.
SCOTUS isn't Dems fault. Manchin and Sinema aren't controlled by the other Senators. If those are all of your problems, lashing out at the rest of the party is only going to make things worse.
Thanks for clarifying much better than I would be able to :) this is exactly what I meant and also the reason I added I’m not from the US, as not to step on anyone’s toes.
Change is definitely possible. It has been happening for as long as I have been following American politics. Though the change has been (in my opinion) mostly in favour of rich old people. This should only strengthen our resolve to change things for the better.