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Ahh so the Iranians are Palestinians now… how would controlling the air space east of Israel prevent Iran, a country west of Israel from dropping bombs? Controlling their airspace is just another way to control the flow of vital goods.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? Iran drops weapons in Gaza. Iran delivers weapons to Gaza. They're not dropping bombs, they're delivering weapons, that's why I said that they were delivering weapons, and not that they were dropping bombs.

Yeah, beheading a baby and airstriking a baby both end with two dead children. Also… what evidence do you have that babies have been decapitated? We’ve seen this or things similar to this be falsely broadcasted to justify war in our lifetime.

I supplied plenty of evidence above.

Hamas targets babies and cuts their heads off point blank.

Hamas fires rockets from a building, Israel targets the building, Israel warns the people in it, and Hamas refuses to evacuate babies, because they know dead babies help draw sympathy and perpetuate the conflict.

These are both tragedies. They are not the same.

Discord isnt just Skype for gaming, it means argument or disagreement. Israel has rejected all other form of argument, and thus there will be violence.

lol, so you said:

It’s foolish to think that there wouldn’t be a violent reaction when Israel has rejected all other forms of discord.

and you meant:

Israel refuses to disagree! It won't engage in conflict! How dare they!

... okay, sure. Uh... yeah, no, I would not expect a violent reaction to a country that refuses to sew the seeds of discord.

Now, if Israel had refused discourse, that might have been a problem, but that's not how it is. (It's also not a justification for raping teens or burning babies bodies or any of the other shit they've done, but you don't seem to care when Hamas does unjustifiable things, so let's put that aside).

Lol, a deal implies two willing parties.

Fine, the Olmert proposal.

The realignment plan was a unilateral border change where Israel attemped to legalize their illegal settlements by claiming they’d disengage from the West Bank.

Olmert proposed a proposed deal to Abbas in 2008. He offered, in a short negotiation in principle, over 93% of the west bank, with land swaps in return, giving East Jerusalem to the Palestinian people, acknowledging it as their capitol.... Israel only wanted a small sliver of the land it already controlled and offered an equal amount of land in return, including East Jerusalem! And peace. That's all they wanted. A few land swaps and peace.

And Abbas didn't go for it because he knew Hamas would not abide it. There is no such thing as peace when Hamas is present.

They could have said that the land swaps only occur after Israel has withdrawn other settlements under such-and-so conditions, they could have cut a deal around that negotiation in principle, but Abbas just couldn't negotiate.

No, I was not talking about a unilateral move. Although if that had happened, the West Bank would be free now.

Yes, and terrifyingly he’s been your PM six times… over a decade and a half of creating the perfect environment for extremism.

I'm American.

You know how he won in 2009? Olmert backed out of Gaza, terrorism spiked, and Netanyahu said "I told you so."

Less occupation, more violence? Yeah, that's a recipe to fuel war hawks.

I don’t think your people are going to look back with any pride for what is going to unfold in the next few months.

No, of course not, they didn't want this to happen. You think they would have looked back with pride if they sat around and did nothing?

I can't do this again, I haven't been getting any work done, getting caught up in internet debates with people who don't want to sympathize with Jews in the first place. I'm going to mute you now. Or block you, because kbin only has one button, and it's really a mute feature, but... I can't keep doing this.