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[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In my humble opinion, just as "no taxation without representation" is a thing the gov should abide by; "no representation without taxation" is probably good too. If these company's want to vote, have them pay 50% of all the money they every make to taxes.

Actually, not even then. If they want to vote, even if they paid 99% of their profits towards taxes to vote it would be a bad idea.

[–] reverendz@beehaw.org 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Any entity that cannot be executed or imprisoned does not have to navigate the same fears and dangers of citizen beings.

Corps as persons is one of the most monstrous ideas ever. Yes, legally it made some things easier, but we see the outcome.

The whole idea and rules regarding incorporation needs to be revamped from the ground up.

[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

You have no criticism from me on this. Companies either should have no say in politics at all, or a whole shit ton of actual, meaningful penalties for abuse if they do.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I would consider it if owners were punished for all crimes committed by the company by any member. And not by fines.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

The government already doesn't abide by that principle. Votes cast by people in left-leaning areas count for a small fraction of what votes cast in right-leaning areas count for. Those convicted of a crime may not vote at all. Nor those without citizenship. Yet all of these groups pay taxes.

If taxation without representation were generally considered revolution-worthy, as it once was, there would have been a revolution decades ago.

[–] Buzz4074@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I'd say tax them equivalent to all the individuals in the company combined. If there's a 1000 employees, charge them the same you'd take 1000 people all at once. Then maybe triple it to account for the fact that they amplify the efforts of those people many times over.

[–] potsnpans@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If an entity is not subject to the legal restrictions of an individual, it should not benefit from the legal rights of an individual.

[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, pretty much.