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I’m not a fan of the pun chains that somehow always ended up at the top of any Reddit comment thread
There could be a post about electricity and one of the top threads will have a joke about Watts, amps, shock, resistance, ohms, and other electric terms. The least they could have done is use Siemens, but it’s always basic wordplay that anyone can think of
And the worst part is that pun threads can be found any post regardless of the gravity of the situation. Titty post? Puns. Mundane news? Puns. A post of an innocent person being wrongly executed by electrocution? Puns.
Everyone thinks they are/wants to be a comedian, and they’d rather post a low quality joke than to add to the discussion or not say anything at all
Eugh, I know. I don't miss scrolling past those to get to the "real" comments.
You could collapse the comments there, a feature kbin could use
Good point. Another feature I miss from Reddit is the ability to hide posts. We could really use that here.
and articles
That's what I meant. But being able to hide both would be great.
If you're willing to use TamperMonkey there are scripts that create collapsible comments.
For example I'm using this one and you can browse other scripts and style changes in !Kbin.Styles@kbin.social / direct link
I'm already using Kbin Enhancement Script and Kbin-unsquash in Violentmonkey, so I'm willing to try other userscripts too.
How does it differ from TamperMonkey?
Biggest difference I can think of is that Violentmonkey is FOSS, while versions of Tampermonkey past 2.9 aren't.
I don't remember if I've used Tampermonkey or not, but I remember using Greasemonkey before I made the switch to Violentmonkey years ago. I don't remember what happened with Greasemonkey that prompted me to switch.
This is an artifact of having very large forums. With such a large number of people commenting on the same posts, people start making bids for attention, rather than actually commenting on the OP. Stuff that gets the most attention, rather than furthers discussion floats to the top, and people then comment on that in order to be seen.
This behaviour then filters down to smaller spaces.
If you don't want this kind of thing to happen here, participate in smaller communities. Resist the pull of community centralization.
I thought I was the only joyless curmudgeon who disliked the pun threads! I feel validated by your post and I appreciate it.
I bet, like, the very first pun thread on reddit was spontaneous and reasonably entertaining but then like anything else that got a laugh one time it got suplexed into oblivion almost immediately.
Yea and usually I like funny stuff and I laugh REAAAALLY easily but I got kinda annoyed by the Reddit jokes that are so repetitive and I was like "am i becoming grumpy or smth?" I guess not! lol
That's the biggest problem with Reddit jokes tbh. They don't just beat dead horses, they atomize them.
Honestly I think kbin (and lemmy) should default to sort comments by "old". I started using this for reddit some time ago and it's such a breath of fresh air. Also I think it better represents actual population of communities (of course it highlights both good and bad parts of it). Funniest thing is there are still puns - only instead of upvoted chains you see dozens (or hundreds) of the same unsuccessful attempts to start these chains by would-be "comedians", which is hilarious. This definitely helped me to understand on which subreddit comments are useless, and saved a lot of my time.
Lemmy sorting actually specifically tries to avoid that because all it does is reward the people who commment first. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
Comments shouldn't have "upvotes" or ranking at all.
Reddit used to say 'the real life pro tip is always in the comments' or something to that effect.
Why shouldn't a comment that contributed, was genuinely useful or corrected information given by the post be able to naturally rise to the top?
I understand that we don't want "This is the way!" to become the highest top rated comment, but, in most threads useful top level comments get highlighted and off-top/factually incorrect/morally repugnant ones get punted to the bottom and ones that came late to the conversation are just floating in the middle (as compared to being at the end where chances of them ever being seen are even lower).
There are many forums that already have a flat design like that. The appeal of reddit or reddit-like forums is that useful information bubbles its way up to the top. This allows users to find the highest quality posts with the minimum amount of effort.
It also let's users show their appreciation for a post by upvoting it, or label a post as spam/garbage by down voting it.
Although I did enjoy those puns chains, I wouldn't mind leaving them behind. I imagine they would be best in their own little part of this Fediverse world. Someplace where people bring in any odd post and challenge each other to make the longest chain of puns, but out of sight for the majority of people who are seeing the posts.
But whatever, they can stay in Reddit if the want to do pun chains, it just doesn't fit the mood over here.
Makes you wonder what does kbin use to sort comments