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Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ohhhh how I wish my favorite youtubers would create their own Peertube instances...
They'd have complete control of their own content, and any donations could go directly to them.

I know it's kind of a pipe dream, but let me dream dammit.

[–] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of my favourite youtubers recently quite his job to go full time on his channel. He's been growing his audience and patreon backers and for a long time using the income from those videos to invest in his equipment and the gear he reviews. Eventually he grew the channel enough to go full independent.

It'd be really hard to do that outside of YT's monetisation model tbh. I think most YTbers start of making videos for shits and giggles and any money they get is like passive income. Then they catch a viral video of find and audience and start the consider the channel more seriously, and explore other monetisation models and opportunities. I get the hate towards Google and YT but a lot of the oddballs I love on YT might not have a platform otherwise.

[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly, there are channels that don't monetize their videos. For some reason everyone is just pissed at YouTube and doesn't consider that the people and/or companies making money off the ads have something to do with it.

[–] davetapley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've been really enjoying https://nebula.tv/, but yes, I wish they'd built it on top of PeerTube.

[–] nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

god fucking damnit i dream that too, that'd be THE SOLUTION to youtube as a whole, it's so sad many people don't know it at all

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Youtube has been operating at a loss since forever. If everyone left to make their own channels/instances, It would collapse in on itself.

Hopefully

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A NewPipe dream.

For digital sovereignty to really take off, I think these big tech companies would have to go under. Then people would realize why a centralized web is harmful, and it would bring attention to alternatives. That won't happen though, because big tech is well... big.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

dammit, how did i not think of NewPipe dream, lol.

I think if Peertube were to take off like Mastodon, it might at least be enough to put pressure on youtube to change.
hell, Meta saw fediverse gaining attention after Melon Husk took twitter for a nose dive, and threw together a half baked app to at least get their foot in the door. Theyre aware of what people actually want, they're just trying to figure out a way to make money off of it/you.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Video content takes a lot more storage then text and images too. So it might not seem very practical for creators to host all that themselves when youtube does so free of cost.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I apologize for my ignorance but what is peertube?

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Peertube is a federated video sharing tool. I think the idea is generally that you host your own videos and federate to get viewed.

If you want to check out what's generally available Sepia Search is pretty much the canonical search of federated peertube.

For an example of a general purpose instance that people can upload to, check out TILVids

For an example of a special interest instance, check out Blender Videos

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the information.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck yeah fediverse

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found this video explains it pretty well.

Think Lemmy/Mastodon or any fediverse platform, but solely for videos

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much.