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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You'd think it would occur to them that if one is able to consult a list, that makes it possible to avoid Nestlé products

I think you're forgetting something. This entire chain started with an example to support the theory of it being impossible. The one about eating out where you don't know the ingredients being served to you or what brand they're from. You chose to ad hom without even addressing it. 🤷

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh sorry I didn't realize we are legally mandated to eat out at places that use Nestle products, my bad.

The statement that it's impossible is entirely wrong.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Was that supposed to be a coherent response? Everyone eats out. I think you would have to scour a nation pretty thoroughly to find even a single person that hasn't at least had a McDonald's shake or something. Whether something is mandated or not was not the conversation. The conversation was whether or not it's possible to actively avoid completely, and restaurants hardly ever list their recipe as it is proprietary.

Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No? Then why would you posit that response? You're going to need more to support your claim than what you've said here before you can justify dismissing people.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

hasn’t at least had a McDonald’s shake or something

What they've done in the past is irrelevant. If they choose to forgo Nestle products from this day forward, then it is possible.

Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No?

I never argued that one was legally mandated to shop at a grocery store. Whether one shops at a grocery store or not, one can consult a list and therefore not buy Nestle products. This is quite simple.

Then why would you posit that response?

Just as an example of how it is possible not to buy certain products, regardless of how ubiquitous they are.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Past, present, or future- it doesn't matter. People need to eat. Suggesting that people just don't go to restaurants is as helpful as suggesting people just don't go to grocery stores. That's why this fact:

restaurants hardly ever list their recipe as it is proprietary.

is doing a great job of convincing me that it is actually impossible, and if I'm honest you've said nothing to convince me otherwise. I think that's the disconnect.

I'm not going to stop going to restaurants. Don't get me wrong, I hate Nestle as much as the next lemming, but restaurants are not something I'm ever going to be able to cut out of my life completely. And I'm willing to bet my life on this being true for a lot of people.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the idea of consulting a list and calling ahead to a restaurant is too hefty of a concept for you to hold onto, then yes I can see why there's going to be a disconnect. Let's just go our separate ways, and I feel confident that eventually you'll get there.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alrighty there bud. You have yourself a terrific day. Try not to forget to breathe. 😁

Just so we're clear BTW:

The law does not require retail or food service companies that make food to order to give ingredient lists or allergy warnings to customers. That means any restaurant, cafe or food cart that makes food to order does not need to give you the ingredients list

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