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[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but can sheep really consent, without a massive power dynamic

[–] genuineparts@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really don't want to be arguing a pro-bestiality point here and I have no clue how one would go about the act. But I think a sheep would be able to hurt you pretty good if it wasn't okay with what is happening, same as a horse for example.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You guys need to calm down. Maybe the guy wants to have a steak, but he also wants the meat to be as fresh as possible.. 😅 He is also making sure that the sheap is as relaxed/respected as possible, so he put it on the front seat. Stressless meat I've heard tastes better.. 😅😅😅

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unnecessarily killing or harming a sentient individual is wrong, full stop

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

under what ethical system?

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit I knew McAfee Antivirus man didn't die in that Spanish prison

[–] genuineparts@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Shhh. You know nothing.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Consent requires sentience so no animal can consent regardless of power dynamic.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sheep are sentient. You probably mean sapient.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like the definition has changed in the last decade, then, because it used to exclude children younger than 5.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it means able to perceive or feel things

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Well at that point we'd have to define perception.

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hence why veganism is a moral obligation to animals. It's indefensible to kill or exploit/harm an animal without their consent (which they can't give), and which clearly isn't in their best interests

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

That's a stupid argument, just by having sentience doesn't mean we have any moral obligations to our food sources. There are plenty of incentives to human being's health and society by reducing meat consumption, why would you choose such a weak reason instead?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

it makes no sense to discuss consent from non-human animals. do you ask plans for consent before cutting them? or doors for consent before opening them and putting your whole body through them?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consent requires sentience

i don't think one has anything to do with the other.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can't think then you don't make decisions, basically.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

they are unrelated.