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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No my stance is and always was that a single unsourced statistic that “80% of homeless people experience lifelong mental illness” is not proof that mental illness causes homelessness. Especially when presented without comtext to compare it to.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool, then guess what, YOU AGREE WITH THE PERSON YOU STARTED ARGUING WITH, dumbass. It's a factor. No one ever claimed it was the sole factor. It is a complicated issue.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No I don’t agree with them. They didn’t claim it was a mere factor they claimed it as the main primary factor that had to be solved to fix it. The issue is actually pretty fucking simple, if you give people homes they stop being homeless. There’s absolutely no evidence that mental illness is a cause rather than a symptom of homelessness.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well that's just demonstrably untrue, but let's set that aside for a moment.

they claimed it as the main primary factor

Sure, which is different from "the sole cause" which is what you've been bullshitting about.

If you both agree that mental illness is a contributing factor, but disagree on the severity, then you can start discussing as equals. Instead, you chose to REEEEEEEEEEEE and start a fight.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t agree that is a contributing factor. That was not what I was arguing about before, because it wasn’t necessary to address it to point out the flawed reasoning that he was using.

A single incorrect and unsourced stat is not proof of shit, and your consistent refusal to address that makes it pretty fucking rich that you’re insulting me for not understanding the posts I’m responding to.

And if it’s demonstrably untrue then demonstrate it or fuck off.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don’t agree that is a contributing factor.

You seriously disagree that untreated mental illness can lead to homelessness?