this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2023
1238 points (97.5% liked)

Political Memes

5515 readers
760 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't want to be housed either, if it came with a laundry list of stipulations, requirements, and more or less complete destruction of autonomy. I doubt anyone would turn down a free, no-questions-asked place to call a home. Somewhere safe to rest and begin working on the issues naturally.

Housing first tends to more or less solve, or drastically reduce, homelessness and all the associated negative things - crime, substance abuse, medical issues, etc. Turns out it's easier to get all the other things sorted and get back to society when you have the bare minimum left.

Sure there will probably be a very small percentage of people who just... don't want to. They're actually happy doing their thing, and that's not really a problem. But I'd strongly doubt it's less than a tenth of a percent of the current homeless population.

[–] Peaty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not sure how large the number is only that in the decades I have volunteered with shelters that some exist.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, some. And some people eat shit for fun, it's a minority of a minority, and I'd put good money on that

[–] Peaty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said I can't say how big or small the number is. It isn't the majority as most unhoused people are not chronically unhoused.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Then what's the point of you saying some people don't want houses? You said earlier you think they should have them, but you bring up that some don't want them. Ok, we're not talking about them. What point are you making?

[–] Flambo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But I’d strongly doubt it’s less than a tenth of a percent of the current homeless population.

Also by definition it's 0% of the current homeless population who is unhappy being homeless.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know if you misspoke or if I'm just misreading it. I really hope you're not making the "these people aren't changing their circumstances so they must by definition be Happy in them" argument. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask for clarification because that's a fuckin dumb argument lol