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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you source is valid, I think your point is relevant but at the same time your leaving out some important details.

To start you say

There is no question that mental illness strongly correlates with a propensity for violence.

While that's true, it's is misleading going all the way back to my original post. The article you linked goes through great lengths to specify 'severe mental illness.' In most cases schizophrenia. Also, the article states in the studies cited that it it's usually untreated schizophrenia coupled with substance abuse.

Caution: the person I was responding to is your typical troll.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the article states in the studies cited that it it's usually untreated schizophrenia coupled with substance abuse.

Universal healthcare would go along way toward addressing the "untreated" part of your criticism.

Mental illness means a lot of things catch up with me later and I will link some research that show amoung all cases of mental illness violence is less likely.

Ok. Let's run with that for a moment: mentally ill people commit less violence than mentally stable people. If that is the case, then "therapy" should increase rates of violence. If your thesis is correct, we should not treat mental illness, because doing so will increase violence.

Surely, you are not arguing for that absurdity. Surely, you agree that among those mentally ill people who do commit acts of violence, effective treatment should reduce the rate of such violence. Universal healthcare, then, addresses violence by providing broader access to such treatment.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I agree that someone is trolling.