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r/The_Donald now on Lemmy (edit: not anymore) (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Tsinc@feddit.de to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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[–] Dav@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just wanted to throw some support for you out there, I'm not at all a trump fan but social media driven echo chambers are half the reason the worst political ideals are spreading. Unfortunately there's not an easy answer to this, but I don't think defederation is it.

[–] GreatBigJerk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Banning white supremacy is not the same thing as making an echo chamber.

[–] Dav@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree, I just think as an overall community we could report/brigade the racism, rather than allow it to grow unchecked. Maybe I'm wrong.

[–] demvoter@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deplatforming works. Don’t give any oxygen at all to fascists.

Using a differences-in-differences approach, we show that on average the network disruptions reduced the consumption and production of hateful content, along with engagement within the network among periphery members. Members of the audience closest to the core members exhibit signs of backlash in the short term, but reduce their engagement within the network and with hateful content over time. The results suggest that strategies of targeted removals, such as leadership removal and network degradation efforts, can reduce the ability of hate organizations to successfully operate online.

Source

[–] Dav@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defederating wouldn't disrupt them, your source is about the removal of leadership/core memebers in online hate organisations. Something I imagine would happen rather quickly on this platform when those people get banned for racism.

That being said I took a look at the community and there's like 3 accounts posting pro-trump posts. Not exactly a community...they're probably already isolating themselves on a different website.

[–] GreatBigJerk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Defederating helps because it limits their reach to a wider community. They're currently a small group because Lemmy and Kbin are new. If they're left unchecked, they will grow.

You are never going to eliminate groups like this, but deplatforming them prevents their ability to radicalize more people.

[–] dreadedchalupacabra@forum.fail 2 points 1 year ago

I'm Jewish. They think I have secret space lasers that start forest fires. No, I don't have to "give them a space so I don't have an echo chamber", a lot of them want me dead. This isn't about politics.