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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Before even then

Price controls were something people were trying even as far back as the crisis of the third century when Diocletian set the standard prices for several common items bought by the Roman peasantry like bread.

Contrasting against the grain dole, which worked better because it was the state stepping in to directly remove a large cost from the lives of eligible households, allowing them to put that money towards improving their fiscal standing. For ancient Romans it was Bread, but for modern Americans a solid equivalent would be medicine or education, shit you could argue that the post war boom was in part because of the govt. doing this partially with housing, subsidizing the costs of WWII vets to build new homes or buy existing ones, of course because America black vets got shafted and redlined but the general idea is still there.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And in a country with practically infinite money, why don't we ensure housing? We have infinite money, we could house literally everyone, but we don't. Why not?

[–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Infinite money is not the same as infinite resources. We can't just create houses out of thin air just because we have money. We still need tangible things like lumber and concrete to actually build the house.

With that said, we could certainly provide housing for everyone in the U.S. It's not an issue of resource scarcity.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not even housing scarcity, there's already more available units than there are unhoused people, the problem is property owners who are eating properties up they have no intentions of living in themselves to collect rent on them.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We have the houses already. We don't actually need to create them, though we sure could if need be.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's a way to force the masses to be productive for their capitalist overlords. Overt slavery isn't acceptable any more, but saying “you're going to live under a bridge unless you comply” still is.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd genuinely love to learn more, do you have any readings for pre-marxist ideas about equality in economics?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://youtu.be/hvk_XylEmLo?si=k4sT-b3VnwAdjiTI

Not a reading, but it'll certainly getcha blood boiling!

He's actually a good resource on ancient Roman history generally too, he's the guy who brought my attention to how successful the grain dole system was and why it was that successful.

He also includes social developments like the Aedileship of Agrippa, which was one of the greatest periods of infrastructure development and renewal in Roman history.