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I've noticed today that world@lemmy.world hasn't had any new posts or comments for about a day now.

However when I go to https://lemmy.world/c/world in the browser there's way more activity.

The post when on feddit.uk https://feddit.uk/post/2700378

Same post when on Lemmy.world https://lemmy.world/post/5717372?scrollToComments=true

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[–] Emperor 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, it's tricky to know when to pull the trigger as Tom may spring into action any time.

I think step one would be to rummage together a few people who would volunteer to Admin this instance if we can raise Tom, so he can slot them in if/when he reappears. That would mean we can get refederated and everything starts ticking along.

I've run my own website and know PHP/MySQL but Rust is something I've not looked into. However, updating and doing admin stuff might be relatively straightforward. I don't know. I'm also unreliable, so it couldn't just be me volunteering.

I’d offer to set one up but I don’t have the time to set one up or maintain it.

Are you knowledgeable enough to volunteer as an admin here? I imagine duties are light and if we can get a few people onboard it shouldn't be too bad

[–] blackn1ght 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it’s tricky to know when to pull the trigger as Tom may spring into action any time.

Exactly yeah. We don't want to act too soon, but also leaving it too late could mean the instance gets defederated by other big instances and people leave for other instances.

Are you knowledgeable enough to volunteer as an admin here? I imagine duties are light and if we can get a few people onboard it shouldn’t be too bad

To be honest I don't know what's involved. I'd need to look into how hosting works and what's involved in things like upgrades. I'm a software engineer (dotnet C#, AWS mostly) so it wouldn't be alien to me and I might be able to help out on a temporary basis but I can't really commit to anything due to time.

[–] merridew 5 points 1 year ago

Given my level of technical knowledge, I can confidently say that I am unable to offer support in any way.

But I'll second that this is a great instance -- one which I've really enjoyed seeing grow and begin to pick up steam -- and anyone able to step up has my gratitude.

[–] Emperor 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be honest I don’t know what’s involved.

Me neither. I may spin up an instance to have a nos around but I assume the general Admin business is a bit like the administration of a web forum in which there's a backend with relevant tools and the settings, presumably a way to upgrade from there. I'm pretty familiar with that kind of thing over the years.

Access to the actual server is likely to be different again but if there is a web admin panel then getting a few people signed up to that should help at least resolve the current issues.

[–] tkc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got dev/sys admin experience, so happy to help out, I'm just probably not the most reliable, but it seems like we would have a few candidates to help pitch in, so between like 5? of us (presumably including Tom), the duties should be light if we share the load.

[–] Emperor 2 points 1 year ago

I've read that 5-6 is a decent number of Admins for an instance as it provides redundancy and spreads the work out so no one person feels like it is too much hassle.

[–] GreatAlbatross 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tom was discussing more admins previously iirc. I think if that happens within a reasonable time, and enough people are added to keep responses prompt, the site will be ok.

However, if it continues with absence, it's not a good situation. Especially when images are stored locally, all it takes is some malicious party spamming horrible images (or potentially even CSAM), and the site would be a smoking crater.

[–] spacedogroy 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is probably the highest risk, in my opinion. I honestly think Lemmy needs some automated solution to monitoring and scanning for CSAM content, because as a user I don't want to exposed to it and as an admin I wouldn't want to be in the position where I am responsible for censoring it.

I think lemmy.world have kind of made a good point here: we need an admin in place who's reactive and willing to maintain the server regularly - in a moderation and a technical sense - or we should consider migrating to a larger instance.

This is no dig at @tom as he's done a phenomenal job here and has undoubtedly spent time and money in creating this instance, but it would be good to get a sense off him whether he really feels he wants to continue on with the project. If not, it should lead to a larger discussion of where to go from here, because I don't think the status quo is sustainable.

[–] mackwinston 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's CSAM? (I don't want to google it, it sounds "risky" from the context).

[–] fakeman_pretendname 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It basically means "pornography with children in it", though I'm unsure of the specifics of the abbreviation, and likewise don't want to google it.

[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

It stands for child sexual abuse material if I remember correctly

[–] Emperor 8 points 1 year ago

Tom was discussing more admins previously iirc. I think if that happens within a reasonable time, and enough people are added to keep responses prompt, the site will be ok.

Yes, it's easily fixed, so no need to start panicking yet.

I've emailed Tom, I've spoken to some else who has used another email address, we'll get this sorted. Hopefully, pretty quickly.