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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 103 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What’s to stop every single corporation from leveraging third party contractor companies just to escape union bargaining? Cognizant seems like a company that basically exists for this reason. Both Amazon and Google play this game and it’s infuriating.

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing. It’s one of the alluring aspects of using third-parties. You pay a flat fee, people do work. You avoid all the overhead of HR, benefits, workers compensation and unemployment insurance. If you want someone gone there’s no process, you simply tell the third party that Joe doesn’t need to come back to work, ever, and you’re done.

Amazon and Google are not alone in this practice, nor is it exclusive to Fortune 500 companies.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I work as a contractor dev for fortune 500s. It's wide spread. Handful of full timers, padded with contractors.

Brain drain is a real problem, but it also means there's a culture of FTE being willing to jump through corporate hoops and on call hours, because they want to keep the FTE position instead of finding a new job every 1.5 years (in California where there are max contract lengths)

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Worst case you pay out what is left on the contract, but since you drove costs down it is cheaper than firing a regular worker!

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

That's basically the current situation.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dark Brandon and the NLRB are on that shit. No more malarkey.

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hopefully people turn out in 2024 and stop us going down the 1930s Germany route..... my mother recently moved to Pennsylvania from a deep red state, and was saying that due to Bidens "corruption", she didnt think she would vote in 2024. Upon further questioning, my hyper conservative fundemantalist Christian uncle had been sending her news.

Hope my arguments convinced her otherwise, she detests Trump & the Republicans. Her vote DOES matter now. Have her set up with a variety of news websites & Firefox/ublock origin etc, and not "Townhall" garbage.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Depending on where in PA, it might be just as red as where she came from. If she's not near Pittsburgh, or basically bordering NJ, then she's probably in good ol Pennsyltucky.

That state really should be broken into three states, it's way too large and it's already divided geographically.

It's a shame that calling Uncle Tommy out for being the dumb ass he's always been is so frowned upon, even if it's to avoid fascism.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 1 year ago

This is what I like to see.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

This is what laws and regulations are for. If we had a functioning government...

[–] jaalu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nothing (yet). Yup, this model insulates corporations of all kinds from bargaining, costs (like healthcare), liability, and much more. Check out this episode from the Pitchfork Economics podcast https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vUFBZNTY2NzY3ODY3NA/episode/M2JmMzVlNGMtMDk2NC0xMWVlLWFjMGUtYzc3Mzc0OTZlODFi?ep=14

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Nothing, and they do just that. No labor laws apply to contractors and it's practically the only way some of them can earn a decent wage, so striking is futile - they'll just switch to other contractors.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Well, now you have contract bargaining with your contracting company, and those companies aren't immune from their workers becoming disgruntled and unionizing.