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Is degrowth possible under capitalism? (slrpnk.net)
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Let's put some life into this sub. I don't think degrowth is possible under capitalism because the imperative to degrow contradicts the capitalist drive for the creation of value (valorization) which must always grow under capitalism'

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[–] tgirod@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are describing market economy, not capitalism.

[–] GuilhermePelayo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Degrowth from capitalism to market economy is more of an obtainable goal

[–] tgirod@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe if everyone had access to roughly the same wealth, market economy could be a good method of balancing economy ?

[–] GuilhermePelayo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but it's tough to imagine a path to that.

[–] tgirod@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. But there has been experiments, especially around melting currencies (is that the correct English name ?).

A recent example (in French, but I guess automatic translators are good enough now ?) : https://monnaie-libre.fr/

[–] GuilhermePelayo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for that, I wasn't aware that was a thing! I'll bookmark that to read later as it seems a bit long! I didn't even know melting currencies were a thing

[–] tgirod@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Such is the power of economic orthodoxy - to trick you into thinking there is no alternative, that economic laws are laws of nature when they are "only" social constructions ...