Because every single other dominant power teamed up more thoroughly than they had ever done prior or since for the sole purpose of ratfucking them down to every last brick and feasting on the carcass?

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So? We did not invade and destroy them. Was the USSR so weak it was unable to be self-sufficient on the world stage?

[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We didn't invade them because of mutually assured destruction. We did proxy war them, espionage them, propagandize them, sanction them, embargo them, engage in brinkmanship with them, send blank checks to their enemies, sabotage them, and more, and all of NATO was of a one track mind in doing so.

Was the USSR so weak it was unable to be self-sufficient on the world stage? No, the USSR was so strong that starting from a mean 27 year life expectancy and zero productive infrastructure, it was able to survive this onslaught for nearly a century, and while doing so, put the first human in space, achieve world-class technological innovation, gender equality, literacy rates, and more.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

North Korea has even fewer friends and allies than the USSR did, with their Warsaw Pact. Kim is doing just fine, even got Putin to lick his boots recently.

I think they shouldn't need us to play nice with them in order to survive.

[–] Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but the people are suffering.

[–] Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, US did do a huge part in the fall of the USSR, but you're right, we did not invade them.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. I was kinda hitting back at this idea that the USSR was getting lots of credit for anything good that happened there, but when it came to their fall, well, that was all our fault.

I generally agree with your other comments as well.

[–] Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. However, that doesn't mean that US is the villain. Nations are well...rather complex.