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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You've hurt me right in the vSphere.

What a lot of people at these companies don't understand is that other options existing means people will find a way to continue without you... The more that happens, the larger the community... the faster you fail.

When Broadcom announced buying VMWare, literally all the IT subreddits in unison looked for other alternatives. We're on Proxmox now, it's been a better product than VMWare in literally every way.

It's also called the trust thermocline. Once a certain level of exploitation is reached, customers leaving suddenly goes very quickly and usually unrecoverable. The straw that breaks the camel's back.

Or in the case of unity, you smash the poor camel with a baseball bat and are very surprised it tries to bite you.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is why we shouldn’t have monopolies. People shouldn’t be held hostage by one or two companies. When they go full stupid like Unity is, the customers grumble, shrug, and get to work with a different system.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or not just monopolies, but companies in general have a dictatorship authoritarian structure where the c-suite has all the decision making power and employees or customers can go fuck themselves. Corporations should be made for the people by the people.

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Aligning power over systems with stackholders impacted by those systems is usually good for avoiding hostile incentives which result in hurting people, yes. Plus to some it might axiomatically be morally good.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm forced to use VMware for cisco classes.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds a bit odd... What networking class requires VM platform usage?

[–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I teach a class that needs a vm, I'm making damned sure everyone uses the same type.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The vm has "tools" preloaded and helps students experiment with configurations that don't end up causing the host computer to be badly configured. The host PCs are pretty restrictive and have no admin privileges. The VM is fully capable of being "free to mess with" in a sense. The idea behind it is to prevent unauthorized bad actions on the host pc. Creating a separation of students' abilities behind a vm. You can use your own PC, but that is cumbersome and unnecessary. The "forced to" is a bit loose, but it helps students start from a state where the teacher can help guide the students to what to do.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember at the time that a presentation circulated on a previous Broadcom acquisition, as a preview of what was in store for vmware. I never saw analagous material for vmware exactly, and I can't remember what Broadcom acquisition it was.

Their analysis was that they predicted their changes would kill off any new business, and kill off 80% of the existing customer base. However, this was fine as the other 20% was so stuck that they could charge more than 5x to make up for it, and all without spending any money on R&D and reducing customer support load.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I know nothing of the numbers... This was my understanding of it as well. That they'd make probably just as much if not more money because of the captive groups.

However, while they might be captive now... Doesn't mean they'll be captive forever. VMWare is going to lose the entire market over this very rapidly, then the rest slowly after.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed. However all the key people making this call will have made a few million off the husk on the way down, and will have moved on to drain the next company.