this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
332 points (93.0% liked)

Technology

59588 readers
3893 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Webb finds molecule only made by living things in another world::undefined

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a 1 sigma confirmation at the moment so needs to be thoroughly reinvestigated

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sigma is basically a representation of certainty that your result isn’t a statistical fluke. It comes from standard deviation in statistics but 1 sigma is 68% certain. 2 sigma is 95%. 3 sigma is 99.7%.

By convention, astronomy uses 3 sigma for “significance,” meaning you almost definitely found something. Particle physics, since it’s usually done in controlled experiments, usually requires 5 sigma (99.99994%).

It’s similar to margin of error in political polls.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

All of our homies like 3 sigma.

[–] cashsky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh that's where 6 Sigma comes from. TIL

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why such different gaps in the metric? Nearly 30% difference between sigmas to less than 5% for the next one.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it comes from the shape of the normal distribution (the bell curve) it goes down slowly at first then rapidly and then slowly creeping towards 0 but never getting there.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a number that statistically represents how strong the result is in the data basically. As far as I understand it, with astronomy the typical sigma value expected is 3

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically, this is astrochemistry, not astronomy. I don't know what the expected sigma value there is.

[–] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

It’s 3 plus/minus 1 sigma

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whats less than 0 sigma? I kid but only a little Astrochemistry is fantastically difficult, it involves large networks of reactions, many of which have multiple orders of magnitudes of uncertainty on their rates. Different groups can tey to model the same conditions and end up with over a factor of 1000 difference in the abundences of key tracer speices.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's why I'm positive but not excited yet. It's a good sign. We need to see if detecting it can be replicated... although I'm not sure how to do that except with the Webb again.

[–] Kingcong@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

By saying 1 sigma, they are basically saying tgat are 68% confident in the results. As you increase the sigma, your confidence in the results increases. Here is a site that goes into more in depth explanation: https://news.mit.edu/2012/explained-sigma-0209#