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Hello, all! Longtime lurker on Reddit and now on Lemmy. I’ve tried looking into getting out of the US as things aren’t looking too great as I’m sure many of you know, but wanted some tips from those of us who have gotten out. Where did you decide to move to, and what were the things you looked at when deciding to move there? How did you go about the process? What are some stories you can tell about the immigration process? Where can I start? How can I realistically make it happen? I hope this isn’t silly to you all, as it matters quite a lot to me and I’m genuinely interested in getting away from here for good. Thank you all for your time!

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[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think everything is going to be fine. The US is not the best country to live in, yes. But there are worse places to go. I really have high hopes for the new generation coming in. The zoomers and millennials will eventually replace the old generation in terms of wielding power and the lot seems to be more into making the lives of their countrymen better.

Why not move to another state? Conditions where you are, are not necessarily the same everywhere. You can try researching for the best states to live in and see if any fits you in terms of your capacity and opportunities. At least you’ll still be in a culture that you are familiar with.

[–] constnt@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is entirely dependent on who you are. My wife just had the highest court of the land tell her she has no medical privacy. Sure, right now it 's on state by state basis, but that can change. Every member of the supreme Court said under oath they wouldn't overturn precident and yet here we are. I have no worries that anything bad will happen to me due to legislation, but I am a white cis male. My wife isn't. My best friend is a POC. My inner circle is filled with nonbinary and poc. All these people are actually being affected by the "culture wars" in very real and tangible ways. Feeling like it's all okay right now must be coming from a very privileged and secluded position. Having held multiple people that I love dearly while they cry because their rights were stripped changes your perspective on a lot of things.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why not stay and fight for it? I truly believe that a lot more people are good and want what’s best for their fellow man. it’s just that there is a vocal minority that skews perspective. The majority is still for the common good whatever their background or religion/beliefs are.

As Mr. Roger’s said, “Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.”

There will always be helpers. I hope you won’t abandon your country since it needs all the helpers it can get.

I’m also a minority like your best friend. I have very limited opportunities, for now. But I see helpers in my life believe it or not. I want to fight for them and this country to help make it a better place too.

[–] vermyndax@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a white male living in Alabama, and I'm very sorry to hear of this. I'm really sorry and I promise you I'm doing my best to vote in a way that makes life better for you (far above and beyond the current climate). You're all loved.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But you just said it yourself, it's all state by state. And I'll add on that it's city by city. There are plenty of US regions where minorities of all types are celebrated. Nothing is ever 100% anywhere, there is always more progress to make, but there are places in the US that are generally capital-g Good.

[–] constnt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Things are bad at a federal level. That isn't something you can avoid by moving to a Good place, as you call it. Yes, I said state by state but that was only half the concept. It's state by state for now. With federal protections being stripped that means we are one election from going the complete opposite direction. That is not a Good place to be.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in a blue state which is "supposedly better" and it still sucks ass and I still have to be effected by shitty culture wars going on.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As has been said, just saying "blue state" doesn't tell you enough about where is a good place and where isn't.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but I'm in one of those places where "minorities are celebrated" - I'm a minority and I get the shit end of the stick still.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Those areas that are Good can just as easily be taken away just like my own home state has. The things I needed to survive as a child aren’t even offered to the kids of the next generation. Their meals are being “debated” by our “two” party system. States rights are stupid to begin with. It’s part of the reason our nation is so backwards and inconsistent. Oh, let me look at what states currently support the things I support, let’s just hope the next election doesn’t put someone in who will just as easily and much quicker take those same rights I moved there for away! I do not want to be held hostage by the whims of the few who get bought out by corpos and wealthy bastards. Enough is enough.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Things might not be fine. Throughout human history, on scales big and small, many people were not fine. Living in a crumbling empire can be a very ugly business.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Truly, I am happy you see it that way. I do not see it that way, and that’s not going to change until the “debates” our “two” party system have don’t include children having meals, or telling grown ass women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies. Or that gays aren’t human and don’t deserve the same rights as me. It’s disgusting, and I have had enough of it. As to the states suggestion, that’s a reasonable answer and I thank you for it. The issue still lies in the federal government has shown me they do not give a flying fuck about progressing, and instead want us to regress back to the dark ages. I would be at the mercy of some idiot getting elected into that state and doing the same things the rest of the corrupt assholes are doing. Enough is enough.