Honestly this plus "Skyrim-in-space" make me feel pretty confident that this game is going to have staying power just because we know how good the modding community is for bethesda games. Skyrim was panned up front as genre generic fantasy with a pinch of viking magic but has been played continuously for a decade plus because it made for such a good blank slate to add onto. Also I guarantee every current UI issue already has modders working on it. Starfield script extender just dropped and the game hasn't even officially been released

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which really sucks, if you think about it.

Cause you and I both know the only thing that makes Bethesda games big sellers is the fact that anyone that buys them goes "Oh boy, I cant wait for the modders to make it actually interesting/fun/etc"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But at the same time these games are very moddable. Not every game has great mod apis and they suffer for it. It's like would you rather buy a shitty product that breaks easily or a shitty product that breaks easily that you can also fix easily? Clearly the second. That's what Bethesda's games and reputation were (in my mind at least) pre Fallout 76. So no, I don't think it's shitty at all. The community of modders exist because Bethesda made the games moddable, not because the games suck. If the games sucked and weren't moddable then people wouldn't be buying them in the hopes they could mod it.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather buy a product thats decent, and doesnt rely on waiting 6 months for the community to do all the dev legwork.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, no shit, that's not the point of the comparison though, goober.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its literally what we've been talking about this entire time.

and please, if you're gonna insult me, at least be more inventive at it than a grandmother from the 1950s

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'm saying that if the games just totally sucked and couldn't be modded they wouldn't be popular. Being moddable is a good thing that developers should do. When you say you'd rather have a good game that's also moddable when discussing the comparison of bad games that are moddable versus bad games that aren't moddable it comes across silly. Like, yeah, obviously I was a good game that is moddable. I also want a million dollars. We're not just having a discussion about random things we want. I'm pointing out that the fact that the games are moddable is a very good thing about the games and those modding communities wouldn't exist if it was harder to make the mods.

Also, I'm not insulting you. That's why I used a silly word to try and help it sound more light hearted.