And it's not even an exhaustive list. I've seen others parrot the idea that Ukraine was doing a genocide in Donbas, a Russian accusation without proof, for example. This is what I mean about you guys skeptical about every side of the story except for Russia's.

Also, which side do you think the Russians are supporting in the US? Because it's not the left...

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, which side do you think the Russians are supporting in the US? Because it's not the left...

I frankly don't care who the Russians are supporting politically in the US because their propaganda capacity is near insignificant. Also, the Democrats are a right wing political formation, they will fight to protect landlords and break strikes.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently their propaganda is not that insignificant considering how many people on the right, and you all, are falling for it.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If they're spending their time messaging to a bunch of powerless leftists on their own closed off server they're wasting their time, what does that even accomplish?

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Already read the post you linked with casual homophobia/misogyny in it, it's wild how libs just let that rip as soon as it's about a state enemy.

The Donbass has been getting shelled for almost a decade, and until recently it was pretty much entirely the work of the Ukrainian government.

The US is a world historic force of evil, can you blame us for not taking their propagandists at their word?

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just because they used the word "dick" doesn't mean it's homophobic/mysognist. Also it doesn't detract from their other points.

The insurgents had been shooting people and using bombs or mortars and artillery since at least 2014. They even shot down airplanes back then. It wasn't just the Ukrainian government.

OK, but why take the Russian propaganda for their word? And at some point you have to take some evidence of historical accounts or you're just going going by conspiracy theories.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Just because they used the word "dick" doesn't mean it's homophobic/mysognist. Also it doesn't detract from their other points.

I had to circle back to this one because the comment in question was not just misogynist for using " dick", but because of the implication that dickriding bad, why else use it in that context if it was intended to read as a positive connotation?

As soon as libs feel like it's a "safe" target they just let loose with the misogyny and homophobia.

I didn't address the threads they presented as evidence because I didn't see anything wrong.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I don't take Russian propaganda at their word, I also have decades of history to reference, all the rabid-ass Ukrainian propaganda, plus literally paying attention to shit going on in the last decade

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The insurgents had been shooting people and using bombs or mortars and artillery since at least 2014. They even shot down airplanes back then. It wasn't just the Ukrainian government.

Yes, since the coup shit has been absolutely fucked, and all diplomatic solutions have been derailed.