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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lmao your instance literally blocks it. Just shows how your instance can go fuck themselves.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our instance doesn't show any externally hosted images, it's not about what's in the image idiot

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its completely irrelevant whats inside the image, the point is you don't get shown it because your instance likes censorship.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The reason we don't show externally hosted images isn't because of censorship it was because of the CSAM thing that happened a bit ago that lemm.ee had a problem with

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

correct, we don't allow racism or bigotry on our instance, fashie. sorry that offends you.

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[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's the 1989 Tiemaman square Tank Man picture and Xi Jinping as Whinnie the Pooh, images commonly censored in China as one of them demonstrates clear oppression and the other discredits the CCP.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oppression is when you stand in the way of a tank and the tank stops for you, and then you climb on top of the tank and have a conversation with the guy in the tank, and then you walk off completely unharmed

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] Venus@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(This was copy pasted from Reddit)

Sorry my dietician told me to stay away from reddit-logo

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first two links have plenty on them though and aren't from Reddit and I can go to archive the rest for you

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You believe ridiculous yeonmi-park-tier propaganda about hosing bodies down drains lmao, you have absolutely nothing to offer any discussion.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I understand if you don't want to see. It's very disturbing stuff, and deeply offensive to those who love Xi Jinping thought.

[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

We've seen it and we've seen the alternative narrative. We tend to disagree with the US and their propaganda machine. Maybe you should question why you would believe them too? When has US propaganda lied?

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao you're literally using Reddit as a source!
Not a single journalist who was on the square that day saw anything akin to the accusations happening. The only corpses in the square were those of lynched police officers and army members.
The tianamen square incident - as it is thought of in china - is in fact not supressed, but taught of.
The video of Tank Man is a video of a military unit showing incredible restraint - something you cannot find the equivalent for in "good" countries like the United States, where protesters are run over by cops daily.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses

Hey, did those protestors have bones? Were they wearing clothes? Do you have the first clue about how the human body and/or physics work?

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

There were actually numerous western reporters in the square and they all say nobody died there, some of them sent off diplomatic cables the same or the next day saying so, which were released by Wikileaks.

[–] Bakzik@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, so @CookieJarObserver is using the racist Whinnie the Pooh insult.

hitler-detector

As always. Scratch a liberal and a fascist/racist bleeds.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You realize that this picture originated from Chinese social media right?

[–] Bakzik@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Things can undergo a transformation, just because the original usage might have been innocent. If something starts being used by white racists or western imperialists in a racist way, would ya look at that, it’s racist.

Also, it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability. Like you are doing now.

And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You may be in different circles than me. In my circles, it is used to poke fun at Xi Jinping, not the Chinese people. It is a caricature, just as we draw caricature of our own politicians. Despite the CCP's attempts, Westerners distinguish between race and state. Xi Jinping is not China and China is not Xi Jinping.

[–] Bakzik@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are lot's of ways to criticize a political figure or a government. But you choose the racist caricature.

Back to point 2: it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability.

But, at the end of the day, westerners imperialists love their orientalism and their covert racism.

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

You are saying an Asian person looks like a yellow cartoon bear. Can you not see how that implication is racist?

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And you realise that watermelons originated in Africa, right?

You realise that the origin of something doesn't determine the depictions of it supporting racist stereotypes, such as a vast array of disgustingly racist caricatures of black people eating watermelons isn't absolved by the fact that watermelons originated in Africa, right?

[–] 420LetPobedy@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you ever seen the complete tank man video? he doesn't get run over, while in the authoritarian US state vehicles are often running into peaceful protestors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fairly new to Lemmy. What does that signify? something to do with federation I guess? I can see the picture - Xi as Pooh Bear..

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Recently someone started trying to bring large Lemmy instances down by posting CSAM on large instances with open sign ups, as a result the hexbear mods made it so that images from untrusted instances wouldn't be shown to hexbear users to avoid hexbear users having to see stuff like that and to reduce the mods workload, idk whether its a temporary measure or not but for now all images from untrusted instances are just replaced with the words *removed externally hosted image* on our end

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you, that makes sense.

I had to see and report some offensive material on that line, and while it was quickly removed by our admins I don't think there's any way to actually prevent it.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Apparently there's been some discussion on lemm.ee of getting an AI that will automatically detect CSAM and delete it automatically but idk whether anything will come of it

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

So in other words our chinese censorship is censoring american freedom? epstein