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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] TerribleMachines@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My perspective is a little different (from having met him), I think he genuinely believed a lot of what he said at one point at least ... but you're pretty much spot on in all the ways that matter, he's a really bad person of the should probably be in jail for crimes kind.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The line between “actually believes $x” and “appears to actually believe $x” can be made heeeeeella fuzzy (and people in that space take advantage of that)

Curious about the latter half of your remarks. Is that opinion, or something grounded in other knowledge that isn’t widely known yet?

[–] TerribleMachines@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point with the line! Some of the best liars are good at pretending to themselves they believe something.

I don't think its widely known, but it is known, (old sneeeclub posts about it somwhere) that he used to feed the people he was dating LSD and try to convince them they "depended" on him.

First time I met him, in a professional setting, he had his (at the time) wife kneeling at his feet wearing a collar.

Do I have hard proof he's a criminal? Probably not, at least not without digging. Do I think he is? Almost certainly.

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First time I met him, in a professional setting, he had his (at the time) wife kneeling at his feet wearing a collar.

hold on, you can’t just write this paragraph and then continue on as if it’s not a whole damn thing

ah yes the first time I met yud he non-consensually involved me in his bondage play with his wife (which he somehow incorporated into a business meeting)

[–] TerribleMachines@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

😅 honestly I don't know what else to say, the memory haunts me to this day. I think it was the point when I started going "huh, the rats make weirdly dumb mistakes considering they've made posts exactly about these kinds of error" to "wait, there's something really sinister going on here"

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you say where and when this happened without doxxing yourself? Was anyone else around while he and his wife were doing this?

Best not to for exactly that reason but I know I wasn't the only one who experienced it by any means!

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@self Oh, that's like the time I met Young Moldbug at his student house and his first words were, "let me show you the lizard room!"

He was so proud of his room full of giant lizards (and the odd snake).

So proud.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

that's literally the most endearing and human thing I've ever heard about Yarvin