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It used to be that you would do a search on a relevant subject and get blog posts, forums posts, and maybe a couple of relevant companies offering the product or service. (And if you wanted more information on said company you could give them a call and actually talk to a real person about said service) You could even trust amazon and yelp reviews. Now searches have been completely taken over by Forbes top 10 lists, random affiliate link click through aggregators that copy and paste each others work, review factories that will kill your competitors and boost your product stars, ect.... It seems like the internet has gotten soooo much harder to use, just because you have to wade through all the bullshit. It's no wonder people switch to reddit and lemmy style sites, in a way it mirrors a little what kind of information you used to be able to garner from the internet in it's early days. What do people do these days to find genuine information about products or services?

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[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And everyone gave me shit for keeping my feedly account.

The Reader died, but the feeds do live on, between mastodon, lemmy and feedly I got plenty to read.

[–] wewbull 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's just consumption.

How do you research something?

[–] chb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess it's training. In german we have a word for it that translates to "media competence", something way not enough people have.

It contains several things (some already mentioned before):

  • learn how to search, good and bad phrases, etc.
  • over read all the pages that look like crap (only gained from experience)
  • never trust one source, always double check, maybe with a different search engine

It hardly depends on the topic you want to research and mostly depends on experience.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think in English that term might be media literacy, but as you observe, it's not terribly common, which is frustrating given that it's been needed even prior to the internet's emergence.

Is "media literacy/competency" taught much in Germany, but perhaps not well? Either way, your advice is good even if it wasn't taught or taught well!

[–] chb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No unfortunately not. There are some movements that try to get it into the learning plan of schools but with not much success yet.

So right now parents have to teach their kinds, but many of them don't have any competence on their own, so no teaching happens on times were the negative movements learn (or already learned) to use this lack of knowledge to manipulate.

Phishing is one of the best examples.

I feel how I get frustrated while writing :D

[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Go digging? That hasn't really changed has it? If a report pops up in my feed speaking about some scientific study, I try and go to the journal or the arxiv to find the study itself so I can read the summaries. If I really can't find anything first party, if I've got some personal knowledge on the topic I might just write the paper's author and ask for a copy (they're often very willing and excited to share) or use my library provided JSTOR access?

Google scholar still mostly works as well.. but yeah I only use it every other week or so.

Like this isn't new, science twitter has mostly moved to mastadon so most of the time there's an arxiv link in the "Study released today..." toots etc.

There are some new youtubers trying to spread the word, but yeah like the same way you've always researched?