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I have seen so many times that systemd is insecure, bloated, etc. So i wonder ¿does it worth to switch to another init system?

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[–] zkikiz@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It used to be that everything in Linux was a file, ideally a text file, so if you could find the right file you could access or change what you wanted. Systemd is a big program that manages a bunch of stuff and creates unique commands within its programs for doing so, which moves away from that principle and turns system management into what feels a bit more microsofty (like the registry editor program vs editing config files, etc) and a lot of people don't like that. But to its credit, it does solve a few problems with cobbling together a modern system that doesn't suck.

[–] M_Reimer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Actually it doesn't really move away that much from the "everything is a file" principle. For example a "service" is a file describing how to properly start a particular service and if you enable a service, then a symlink is created to your service file, ....

[–] 601error@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

As a Windows app developer, I wish Windows service management, boot control, and logging were more like that of systemd. What we have is so much more janky and Sisyphean to work with.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It used to be that everything in Linux was a file, ideally a text file

Yes? The entire Systemd configuration is done with files. With a very well defined structure called units that you can use to configure, boot, service startup, networking, containers, mount stuff, open sockets.... that's exactly the point Systemd provides a cohesive configuration file format for a system.

[–] zkikiz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah but I've interacted with it a lot and most of my interaction is commands sent through one of their programs. Versus scripts like init.d whose contents I can easily inspect and modify. Init scripts aren't config files, they're directly executable code.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Init scripts aren’t config files, they’re directly executable code.

Yes and that's exactly the problem.