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[–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Simulation hypothesis is just theism with extra steps.

Come at me bro.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I think God created the world" pitchforks raised "...WITH A COMPUTER!" pitchforks lowered

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God's a prepubescent kid playing SimUniverse and fucking around with the Disaster menu.

Satan's an acne-riddled teenager somewhere online griefing that kid.

[–] Philolurker@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Gnosticism 2.0

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"But it was clearly a Macintosh 128k"

"BURN THE HERETIC!

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simulation hypothesis is not science.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is part of science, it's an untested (and currently untestable) hypothesis. Such thought experiments can be very useful. Running through the consequences (and possible experiments) can sometimes give useful insights into other areas of physics.

The problem is when layman take the scientific equivalent of a debate joke and treat it as gospel. It's similar to what happened with the flat earth society (started out as a debating joke, and got overrun by idiots).

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An untestable hypothesis is not science. Science is ideas and hypothesis that have undergone the scientific method. Until then it's just a thought experiment.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. If it's not testable, it's not science.

I was watching some dumb video where a Christian "scientist" was trying to "prove" that god was the best scientific explanation because it could not be wrong. Which is exactly why explaining things with god isn't science.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So The Big Bang isn't science?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on what you mean by "The Big bang". If you're talking about a seemingly spontaneous explosion of matter ~14 bya, then no, that's not science. That's like saying that the sun, or dirt, or a hurricane is science. Forming a hypothesis that all matter can be traced back to a single expansive event, then observing movement of celestial bodies, measuring those movements with redshift and seeing if that data is in-line with your hypothesis... That's science.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Simulation theory makes no inherent moral prescriptions or assertions about the ultimate origin of the universe - it just rolls everything up a level - This universe is a simulation inside the real universe... What created thecreal universe? We're not trying to answer that.

Theism tends to make moral prescriptions and point to an immutable god - This universe was created by God... What created god? It's god, dude.

This is why simulation theory and theism are compatible - there's no reason both can't be true - though we can never know if either is true, so just get on with your life and try to be a decent human.