this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2023
335 points (94.2% liked)
Technology
59308 readers
5201 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Apple support their version of right to repair.
You have the right to repair your Apple device on their terms, with their overpriced tools, with their overpriced parts, following their restrictive terms, and authenticate almost every repair with Apple.
If you try and get a part from another supplier, or source your own genuine parts from dead devices that's going to cause "bugs", like faceID or auto brightness not working if you have the audacity to repair "their" device.
They're also going to work like hell to use any loophole that allows them to deny self repair.
Remember, it's Apple's device, you're just using it.
Yes, this reads jaded as hell. But given all the things Apple have done to deny self or 3rd party repair it's hardly lies.
Also the part price is almost the same as just giving it to apple to repair themselves.
Credit where it is due though… they could have remained silent and probably taken no flak… so good on them.
Their big request seems to be to make sure people are aware when a phone is fixed with off-brand parts. This also makes sense to me. Some portion of off brand parts will cause problems, which may show up as complaints back to or about Apple.
(An example: we have a system trained to map rail territory using head-end video using some visual odometery and 2010-era AI. A specific client has cameras that we can’t process well because of weird subtle artifacts. Apple is doing much more complicated stuff than we are.)
No. No credit.
This is the old embrace and extend strategy. They know they are losing the argument, so they'll embrace it and redirect to a version they control. It's good for them, not the consumer.
In microelectonics, there's not really such a thing as an "off brand part". Nearly all the parts that matter in an iPhone are custom. You're not going to buy just any old camera module and shoehorn it in. It won't physically fit, and it likely won't support the right commands. If somebody makes one specific for the iPhone, well... Look at that... It meets the specification.
Even if it does become an issue because (for example) the optics aren't exactly the same and face ID doesn't work, would someone complain to Apple or the repair shop that didn't do an effective repair?
Really, because of the custom nature of most components, what Apple is trying to stop is the canibilisation of iPhones to fix other iPhones. That would give old broken iPhones value. Only Apple is allowed to exploit that value.
Talk is cheap. They get flak for their actions, what here has changed.
Any pre-owned device is going to inherently be less valuable than a brand new device. Phones are sharply depreciating assets.
What apple doesn’t seem to want is to recycle components from otherwise unusable devices into damaged devices . They want repair shops to have to buy parts directly from apple, so they can maintain control of the market.