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[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Notice you didn't name the United States which is just as authoritarian as modern Russia by any definition we choose (voting rights? participation in political process? allowed dissent? access to clean water? basic access to healthcare? food desserts? policies meant to keep people in poverty?). That's my point. It's an ethereal term unless properly defined.

We'll have to set Libya aside since after given "freedom," there are now literal slave traders everywhere.

[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't particularly care as that wasn't my point. My point was to disagree with your comment prior which stated that authoritarian as a term was mainly used as a truncheon against communist nations in order to increase support for capitalism, which it isn't.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, what they should have said is that authoritarianism as a term is mainly used as a truncheon against non Western countries in order to increase support for Western hegemony, which it absolutely is.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

You are correct, I should have picked my words more precisely, thanks for explaining what I meant better than I could have

[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree but that at least would have been a better argument

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

And you disagree why?

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you doing that is unhelpful. It is confusing people because that is not a reasonable place to find criticism with the argument. Too much precision is not helpful in arguments and the CIA literally ran propaganda programs to get people to try to bog down any discussion of communism with meaningless minutiae. So, do better or something.

[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is helpful because it's not about having too much precision, he made a bullshit argument and I found it ridiculous.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure you if you can see my pronouns because federation is still kinda confusing to me, but I go by they/them please thanks ❤

[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't see but will keep in mind for the future, sorry and thank you for understanding

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

No worries mate ☺️

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the replies? Was it really helpful? No. I am glad you found it emotionally validating but that is not reason enough do to all that.

[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah cause I only comment when I think everyone's gonna agree with me