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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If this is what a fake libertarian is, there's no such thing as a real one. This is every single libertarian I've ever conversed with.

[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How many have you talked to? I'm guessing the root cause is your sample size is too small.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, OP's argument is founded on a logical fallacy -- it is called a Faulty Generalization.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I considered myself libertarian, I was not a fan of police brutality, pro LGBTQ rights, more open border, and legalized drugs. I still hold all of those views but have gotten a lot more to the left from am economics standpoint. A lot of that is die to my econ degree.

That said, post 2016 I definitely noticed a ton of faux libertarians who were very defensive of Trump. If you voted for Trump, I don't think you can consider yourself libertarian. I think I recall hearing that the whacko New Hampshire libertarians basically took over the party. Those guys are a bunch of racist fascists.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If you voted for Trump, I don’t think you can consider yourself libertarian.

I wouldn't go so far as to draw that line at voting, as one could certainly be voting strategically -- it's possible that they don't agree with many, if any, of Trump's policies, but they were of the belief that voting for Trump would push policy in a direction that would be in their interest -- this is, of course, a symptom of FPTP, and it could be possibly solved with a ranked ballot. That being said, I do completely agree that if one is a vehement supporter of Trump, and his policies in a similar fassion to the usual MAGA group, then they cannot call themselves a libertarian in good concience -- there are many policies of, and actions by Trump that are very un-libertarian.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a faulty generalization.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Commenting on a 2 month old comment. Sure got me.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The age of the post should protect your statements from future criticism...?