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[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

USSR. All these lefty regimes are 100% totalitarian. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. It doesn't matter how you spin it.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms.

Question: have you ever read the Communist Manifesto?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice.

[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USSR

Yeah, this is precisely the kind of state I was talking about. Thanks for confirming. I’ve explained twice in responses to you, and you haven’t actually addressed my points, so maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying.

The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms

If you think Marxism-Leninism actually represents what Marx laid out as communism, you are mistaken. Marxism-Leninism was just Stalin-branded autocratic socialism—Marx had no say in the name. Neither did Lenin, for that matter, unless I’m forgetting my history. This, again, is precisely what I was talking about.

It doesn’t matter how you spin it

I think you should go back and read my original comment and see that the whole point was to unravel the actual spin in this image. No matter how you spin it, this meme places an unwarranted amount of blame on Western leftists while describing each label inaccurately and with a traditionally right-wing slant.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just read the fucking manifesto already!

[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression.

[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide.