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Tell that to the men who fought the Civil War and burnt down the south to free my ancestors.
I would, many of them are my ancestors (both sides of the conflict, and some freed by it). And the results were horrifying, even if the means were justified by the evil of slavery (which was a far greater evil than what was inflicted on the Confederates).
Sherman's march made martyrs of the Confederate cause, and those that weren't martyrs turned around and started the KKK, using Union brutality as a rallying cry, and the political backlash derailed Reconstruction with Jim Crow laws.
The means defined the end result, which we're still dealing with today in the form of MAGA.
This is the dynamic I speak of. I don't believe fighting evil is the wrong decision, but per Sun Tzu:
Had a peaceful solution been worked out, or a surrender negotiated before the razing of the Georgia countryside, I believe that Reconstruction would have been a success. Needless to say, those were unrealistic options at the time, so I do not fault my ancestors (those that fought on the winning side) for the choices they had to make. But those destructive actions led to more evil - driven underground - hiding until recent years, and still potent enough to affect our political discourse today.
Then you have no room to bitch and you thinking you can support a position so vile makes you not one of us, but just some fascist pretending to be. No actual Black person thinks that way. You are a cynically hateful racist by pretending to be one of us thinking it will legitimize your horrifying position.
Imagine blaming the Civil War for the KKK and not.m the actions of a group of people determined to keep slavery no matter what. Imagine not thinking they would have done what they did subsequently regardless.
Nope, it was their choice to try to undermine democracy to bring back slavery, and theirs alone. The moral responsibility to accept what they believe and do was wrong was solely on them, but they didn't.
And once again you completely misinterpret history to fulfill a political agenda. Sun Tzu wasn't just talking about peaceful solutions. He was talking about intimidating opponents into surrendering, usually with overwhelming shows of force, to stop further bloodshed, which Sherman did with his campaign and the U.S. did by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki almost a century later.
And that's you showing you're here in bad faith. That never would have happened because the South chose to fight and die for slavery, because for them white supremacy is a part of their culture. There never would have been peace without a resounding defeat and intimidation to surrender. They and they alone chose to be that way. The rest of the U.S. didn't.
That kind of sick slavery apologia is why we reject that kind of "ends never justify the means" moral outlook and why we look at the reality of a situation before passing judgement.
Racist alt-right dipshit. As if we haven't seen your ilk pretending to be different races to win arguments before. 🤦
Wow, you're actually unhinged with the personal attacks. They never said burning the South wasn't justified at the time (they said the opposite). They pretty much only pointed out that certain means may carry unintended consequences to be aware of before engaging in such means. They ain't blaming anyone. Where's the racism/fascism in that?
No, they disarmed you by lying about their position and then went on to argue why they felt it was unjustified. Like all dumbass raciste masquerading as Black people to push their evil sophistry.
You understand without the Civil War I'd have likely been shot in the fields, mutilated to break me or turned into some kind of comfort girl or something, right?
When is it okay to just admit that some people are evil and those that are choose and want to be that way?
When do we ever get to label people as such?
Never?
Then you are evil yourself, and this conversation need not happen. Goodbye.
You are never going to have a meaningful conversation with anyone if you can't accept that people with different opinions are just that: People with opinions. Most of them aren't evil. Not deceitful. Just humans who've had different experiences than you.
If you label all these people as evil then indeed, violence against them is the only option you have. You create a world as radical, judgmental, and toxic as the sad history you're trying to rectify by insulting and shutting up people who just express honest and valid concerns.