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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 109 points 1 year ago (96 children)

Our track record dealing with covid shows us that our approach was largely unsuccessful. Masking must be enforced, not suggested. This is the only effective solution.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I tend to agree, but realistically who is going to enforce it? You've got to take into consideration the impact the constant stream of conflict has on low level employees who end up responsible for this enforcement. For those who want to protect themselves, N95 masks are highly effective when used properly.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You also need to wear eye protection. Even just regular, prescription glasses showed a 30% reduction in infection rates. Masks don't protect if other people wont also wear them.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, it's not going to be accepted by the public or broadly enforced by anyone. The only thing we can do is wear effective masks to protect ourselves. That's basically been the reality of it the whole time.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

who is going to enforce it?

In an ideal world, the community. In our current world, the government must require businesses to require customers to wear masks and social distance, and threaten them with suspending their business if they do not comply.

the impact the constant stream of conflict has on low level employees who end up responsible for this enforcement

It will not be constant. Places where this was enforced strictly did not have that trouble. It is the wishy-washy enforcement that empowered people to do this. It will be a short lived protest that dies out quickly, and the suffering will be far easier than that of covid deaths.

For those who want to protect themselves, N95 masks are highly effective when used properly

From my understanding, it is not enough. A person sharing a public space with you and not wearing a mask poses a threat, and this threat is massive if they are carrying the virus (even if non-symptomatic).

People must not have the freedom to cause the death or others by spreading respiratory viruses due to childish irresponsibility because their favorite youtuber said so.

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[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People were such dimwits about it though. Even if you had a security guard at the entrance to every shop challenging people to wear properly fitted n95s, I'm certain heaps of people would remove it after they walked past just on principle.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The American culture is uniquely garbage because of the unique history of having a frontier for self serving pieces of shit to murder a patch of land empty for themselves and assert their right to tell everyone to fuck off. When the frontier was exhausted the homestead became the small business. When the small businesses were absorbed, "you can't tell me what to do" became having a big truck and eating hamburgers with the motivation of spite.

[–] CrapConnoisseur@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We're also uniquely garbage because our nation was founded by a bunch of religious zealots who pissed off everyone in Britain with their dickishness so much that they were told to fuck off and be assholes somewhere else.

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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah it was a shitshow, all because of how politicized it became. No one in 2018 would have thought that asking people to wear a face mask would become such an embarrassing ordeal.

But trust me, it's easy to catch a mask less person in a store. It shouldn't take more than a couple incidents before they learn their lesson and make an example for others.

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[–] bumblebeehellbringer@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We also need lockdowns where people are supported in staying home long enough to eliminate the virus, regular and updated testing, updated vaccines, free high quality accessible healthcare, and changes to make workplaces safe - like letting people work from home; changing in-person work to be socially distanced, and unlimited paid time off so people can get medical care when they need it.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The number of big babies who huffed and puffed at being asked to not stand on other people's feet. Unreal. As if keeping 6ft distance from complete strangers in the supermarket is a major request. Like, why do you need my body heat we don't even know each other.

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