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Updating with Gov. Brian Kemp's response:

The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen.

For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward - under oath - and prove anything in a court of law. Our elections in Georgia are secure, accessible, and fair and will continue to be as long as I am governor.

The future of our country is at stake in 2024 and that must be our focus.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/gov-brian-kemp-absolutely-obliterates-trumps-plan-to-present-irrefutable-report-on-voter-fraud-in-scorching-statement/

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget his brilliant Afghaniplan: withdraw over weeks instead of years and hand the country over to terrorists.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet somehow our worthless news media had the gall to throw tons of shade on Biden, not Trump, when Biden decided to finally throw in the towel and pull everyone out.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

On the one hand it was an extremely shitty plan concocted by the Trump administration. On the other hand, Biden still followed through with it, knowing it was an extremely shitty plan concocted by the Trump administration.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair Biden should have put a halt to it. Everyone knew it was going to be a disaster and he went with it.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Halt the pull-out? What, so we can be stuck there for another decade? Or dump another trillion dollars into that mess because the first 2 trillion dollars did so much?? Fuck that shit.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Halt was the wrong word on my part... slow the transition so that it could be done successfully. We definitely needed to get out but doing it on the ill-conceived deadline Trump set was stupid and had horrible consequences for the country and the region.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We gave them 2 goddamn decades to stand on their own. What the hell would have another 3 months done? 6 months? 2 years?

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't know. What we do know is the military leaders knew this was going to be a disaster and we'd basically be turning the country back over to the Talaban. What's worse than 15+ years of time, money and lives lost. Knowingly vacating to turn the country over to our enemy, abandoning Afghans that worked with our military risking themselves and their families, all because of an arbitrary deadline set by a useless President that ignored his military advisors.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don’t know.

We don't know?!? Yeah, we do know. How the fuck would another few weeks solved this issue that the previous 1000 weeks (yeah, that's roughly how many weeks we were there already) not done???

Look up "lost sunk fallacy" and shift your position to one that isn't completely idiotic.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of things we could've done better in our exit to give the country a chance, and we certainly could have done better by the in country allies that we promised help immigrating to the US and then abandoned. That alone has damaged our future conflicts and our ability to encourage locals to help our soldiers on the ground. Our failures and things we should have done different have been discussed plenty by people far more knowledgeable than you and I.

You keep being an angry, absolutist know-it-all though. That's what we love about you!

It's "sunk cost fallacy" btw. Maybe you should look it up.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yea, switching two words around is the same as thinking that spending another couple of weeks somewhere where we had already spent 20 goddamn years in would have changed anything.

That right there speaks volumes to how little merit your point has. oooof