this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
319 points (99.7% liked)

Green - An environmentalist community

5310 readers
3 users here now

This is the place to discuss environmentalism, preservation, direct action and anything related to it!


RULES:

1- Remember the human

2- Link posts should come from a reputable source

3- All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith


Related communities:


Unofficial Chat rooms:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Asshole replies aside: I took a technical writing course in which we learned that people struggle talking to Americans because we are obsessed with using negatives as a form of emphasis. How are you doing? Not bad! Thank you! No problem. Do you mind doing me a favor? Not at all!

This is especially difficult who already struggle with affirmatives and then need to translate the negative. Combine this with Americans' constant need to appeal to power, you get headlines like "Goliath Loses Battle to David With a Stone," or "No one saw This Heat Coming," or "What You're Probably Doing Wrong With Your Used Toilet Paper."

[–] aaronstc@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except for " Do you mind..." I see you point and never noticed it before. I'm guilty of most of these.

However, the polite response to "Do you mind?" is "no." Otherwise you would mind, and if you do mind, you wouldn't want to do the favor. It's actually a weird question because it basically flips the meaning of "yes" and "no" you usually expect.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good argument untiiiillll you consider that this question is essentially a negated version of "Will you please..."

See also: "Why don't you..."

[–] aaronstc@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not really, you're asking if it would be an inconvenience with would you mind.

Your examples are direct requests.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah the asshole replies were unexpected, had no idea it would offend so many people

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fascinating. NGL it's really gratifying to learn how openly the rest of the world notices America's cultural detachment. They think they can hold onto a global monopoly of culture, while having the social skills of the average 9 year old. Things are clashing and friction is mounting, as it should.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, I know people make a lot of assumptions online, but I hadn't felt that myself until now realizing you assume I learned this recently. I took this class nearly 15 years ago. You put some respect in your tone when you address your elders, you little bastard!

I'm calling it now: we early-phase millennials are gonna be real cussy old folks. Telling harrowing tales of tubgirl, jumpscare videos, and 90% of our celebrities being pedos or cultists.