Intel macbooks deserve the hate, but the apple silicon ones are genuinely impressive to the point of being worth it until the competition catches up in terms of ARM performance, especially in terms of battery life.

[–] CordanWraith@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know, I have an M1 Mac Mini and it is awful, I'll never buy another M chip. It's fast when you're just using a single program, but having more things open and it slows right to a crawl. Plus it's inability to do actual virtualisation is a real pain.

[–] natebluehooves@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very odd… i multitask and run both paravirtualized (arm) and virtualized (x86) linux and windows without issues. You are more likely on the base model and out of RAM.

[–] CordanWraith@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is the base model, I have about 2gb of ram free but it does run out quickly and due to apple bullshit there's no way to just open it and upgrade the ram (also, how the hell do they think 8gb is acceptable?). And they're capable of emulation, but not true virtualisation and things like VirtualBox don't run at all, unless that's changed recently because I admit I haven't looked into it since I found it was impossible after I got the machine.

Also once I have a single docker container running, it causes things like chrome to crash all the time, and I can't even run chrome, vscode, insomnia and a docker container together. Absolutely trash machine, doesn't compare even slightly to my 6 year old i7-8700k machine that's fully customisable. I don't see any reason to ever get another arm machine, and definitely not another Mac.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

8GB is more than enough for someone who only does a little light web browsing and sending the occasional e-mail. Anyone who needs more from their computer is expected to know better and not order the base model. 32GB is workable, 64GB is better.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

I have a MB pro with M1 Max and 64GB RAM and it’s an absolute beast. I can throw everything at it and it doesn’t break a sweat, and I’m a demanding user. I’m a developer and have a lot of software running all the time, 400+ tabs open in Safari, lots of PDF files and other documents open. I’m also running it with 2 high-res monitors (5k2k ultrawide and a 4k). Lots of work related apps (e.g. Teams, Outlook, and bullshit like that). The fan doesn’t even come on. Not even when I compile a large codebase using all 10 cores. It’s an absolute monster. And all that in a 14” laptop. Easily the best computer I ever used.

[–] Syldon 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When was the last time Apple used an Arm chips over intel ? According to the Wiki, this was 2005. X86 software and GPUs were behind apple by quite a way back then. Did they still add Arm to later versions?

Originally X86 was not built with graphics processing in mind. It did not really show anything worth while until the Nvidia viper GPUs in the mid 90s. Prior to that Amiga had the best for graphics processing. I seem to remember Lightshow being the software for Amiga (don't quote me on that, it is from memory). PC became the best for gaming when Voodoo release their first card (possibly 97/98), but they still could not compete with an Apple in graphic processing. Amiga had fell away by this time.

[–] 1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When was the last time Apple used an Arm chips over intel ?

Today.

All their computers are Arm now.

[–] Syldon 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry, but Techreader agrees with me on this one. Apple Macbooks are simply not worth the money spent on them. Techreader does not mention the way Apple inhibits servicing or upgrades. A problem that does not exist at that level on the PC platform. Even with a laptop the CPU, memory and HDD are interchangeable. Apple does not want you to upgrade; they want you to spend 10X the cost by buying a whole new product.

[–] 1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is that in any way related to whether or not they use ARM chips, which was the only thing I responded to?

[–] Syldon 1 points 1 year ago

Because of the conversation thread.

natebluehooves@pawb.social indicated that my opinion was out of touch. Since you say his opinion is based on current editions of Apple Macbooks, then my original statements still holds up that current Macbooks are a bad purchase all round.

This is not a remark towards your input, and only that my opinion has not changed.